I missed this, when did it happen? Do you have a link? I'd be interested to read it...buzzy wrote: I found it interesting to see Marr's so called insightful knowledge of Board goings on pretty much entirely discredited,
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Sorry mate, no link. Marr though said words to the effect that he had it on unimpeachable authority that Windshuttle and a couple of others had put an end to the deal, Windshuttle (and others) debunked that directly and Marr hasn't been heard on the point since.
It strikes me that Marr can be pretty casual with the truth when aimed at his those he perceives to be his ideological opponents.
It strikes me that Marr can be pretty casual with the truth when aimed at his those he perceives to be his ideological opponents.
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And it strikes me that if the ABC Board really did nobble this book to protect the Queen, then the extent of their power has been proven to be limited.buzzy wrote:Sorry mate, no link. Marr though said words to the effect that he had it on unimpeachable authority that Windshuttle and a couple of others had put an end to the deal, Windshuttle (and others) debunked that directly and Marr hasn't been heard on the point since.
It strikes me that Marr can be pretty casual with the truth when aimed at his those he perceives to be his ideological opponents.
Yet it's not so much censorship you'd be worried about if you were working on a big mission in the ABC -- it's the lack of backup. It's the dog-whistle: "If this is against our personal interests, no matter how killer or important or potentially valuable or profitable or whatever, we'll nobble it ... so why start?"
wow long way away from the original topic.
Yeah, Nick, I don't dispute that's a construction of events which is open. Equally it is possible the Board bona fide formed the view the cost of a successful defamation case outweighed the commercial value of publication. For my part I'll never really know, and since the book will still be published I don't really care.
I'm involved in a defamation case where our legal costs so far are well over $200,000 and we are nowhere near a Court date. Those costs probably won't be recoverable even if we win. I'm no publishing expert but I'd imagine the projected profit on the Jones book is around $500,000. A big case, even if successfully defended, would eat up much of that in legal fees, and if there's a loss it'll all be gone.
I'm not saying that the decision taken was right. I have no idea. But since there's a decent argument against publication I can hardly say it was wrong either.
I'm involved in a defamation case where our legal costs so far are well over $200,000 and we are nowhere near a Court date. Those costs probably won't be recoverable even if we win. I'm no publishing expert but I'd imagine the projected profit on the Jones book is around $500,000. A big case, even if successfully defended, would eat up much of that in legal fees, and if there's a loss it'll all be gone.
I'm not saying that the decision taken was right. I have no idea. But since there's a decent argument against publication I can hardly say it was wrong either.
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That's a bummer! Bye bye money.buzzy wrote:Yeah, Nick, I don't dispute that's a construction of events which is open. Equally it is possible the Board bona fide formed the view the cost of a successful defamation case outweighed the commercial value of publication. For my part I'll never really know, and since the book will still be published I don't really care.
I'm involved in a defamation case where our legal costs so far are well over $200,000 and we are nowhere near a Court date. Those costs probably won't be recoverable even if we win. I'm no publishing expert but I'd imagine the projected profit on the Jones book is around $500,000. A big case, even if successfully defended, would eat up much of that in legal fees, and if there's a loss it'll all be gone.
I'm not saying that the decision taken was right. I have no idea. But since there's a decent argument against publication I can hardly say it was wrong either.
However, defamation no longer means what it used to in the foul old days, truth is now a clear cut defence and if the ABC's lawyers cleared it after a hundred grand's worth of to'ing and fro'ing, as has been reliably reported, I would tend to think the argument against publication was not based merely on fear of losing large sums of money in court.
It's clearly not a scurrilous bit of muck raking. A truthful book on Alan Jones is profoundly in the public interest given his huge extra-political and media influence and given the fact that he has made a fortune out of trading on his public profile. He has also been quite vicious toward numerous people of less power and influence than himself. Exactly why he is who he is, would this not be fascinating reading? A must-publish for any serious committed publisher of public interest works, in fact?
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From the Central Coast. The guy absolutely ripped. ( I think it was 'The Performers' vid shot in Hawaii)
Gary Green was an absolute cack. I reckon he retired too early. I'll always remember his interview when asked - "Did you pull the pud when you were a grom?"
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From the Central Coast. The guy absolutely ripped. ( I think it was 'The Performers' vid shot in Hawaii)
Gary Green was an absolute cack. I reckon he retired too early. I'll always remember his interview when asked - "Did you pull the pud when you were a grom?"
His reply, "like a godamn madman"
Hmmm this beer is good.
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