surfers mate- like hell

[moondoggie]

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[moondoggie]

"*!%T!!!$*+" !!! missed the $$$$ key!

TRA$H - THE NEXT BEST THING TO TOILET PAPER

(nailed it)

[The Oracle]

Now how about you SHUT THE F**K UP AND DO SOMETHING, or alternatively, just shut the f**k up.

I would've thought a surf forum was an entirely appropriate voice for people to air their annoyances etc?

Do you get a bonus for trying to kill any discussion against surf mags?

[wanto]

hmm .. do you really wipe your arse with egg shells, used handy towels and onion peels?

[mustkillmulloway]

[. You've had a nice self indulgent bitch fest at everything, .

for every reaction....theres a equal and opposite reaction

and for every surf mag....surf school..surf giant global international trying promote the "sport" ( and of course collect a buck ) there a equal amount surfers willing too tell people too frock off and try and make there surfing expernce horrible so they don't come back

nothing do with u or i

simply a law of physics

p.s hows the old" bra monthly'' (tracks) going still in print

p.p.s got go now thu some eggs @ wicked vans

[moreorless]

Apologies for going semi off subject. But you know what, I am so profoundly over it. Listen, whiners about surfboards and surf mags and Chinese factories and the Surfing Life In General, your time is up. You've had a couple of years now in which to take the supposed moral high ground in the sport, a ground you never had the right to take in the first place, despite your paltry irritation with the Beginner Boom and the apparent sudden overcrowding of surf spots who've had 150 guys out since 1967. You've had a nice self indulgent bitch fest at everything, and blamed a whole lot of people you've never met for your own internal dissatisfactions and your fear of irrelevance. Now how about you SHUT THE F**K UP AND DO SOMETHING, or alternatively, just shut the f**k up.

Geez Nick, those surf moguls up at Noosa must have given you a hard time, or did they slip some sort of mind-control substance into your drink while you weren't watching?

[spook]

for what it's worth i reckon ASL is pretty good these days. they had a few dire years, but now they've got more interesting travel destinations and articles, and are injecting a bit of humour back into the mag. the interview at the end of the mag is usually also kinda interesting, and features someone other than a pro talking about his favourite colour or some shit like that.
plus the photos are sick. yeah, there's lots of good pics on the web, but for the most part the big pics in the mags shit all over em. ASL, surfer, surfing and transworld all have some epic photo spreads. of course i do't usuaully buy the mags, i just gawp at em all in the newsagent, cos i'm a tightarse.

[Lucky Al]

i subscribe to surfing magazine and got the latest in the mail yesterday. it's a north shore issue. i never get tired of reading about the north shore, or of looking at the pictures. on the cover nathan fletcher is grabbing his rail in an off-the-wall barrel that's throwing out twice as far as the wave is high. it's a huge barrel, not bad to look at at all. but i'm curious about australasian surf business magazine. i'd never heard of it until nick mentioned it in his thread of questions for the big three reps last week. then yesterday i read on coastalwatch that it won a 'pioneer' award at the 2008 surfing hall of fame awards: 'asb magazine has established a strong and proudly independent niche within the surf publishing market in australia, new zealand and indonesia.' has anyone seen it? what's in it and where you can get it?

[Quangers]

How long are we supposed to agree with the blokes who talk it up, make everyone feel bad about buying a board off someone up the street, or worse still someone in another city/country who knows what they're doing. It's time people looked for quality rather in a board than a local name shaper that will ensure they don't get hassled in the line-up.

[offshore1]

[. You've had a nice self indulgent bitch fest at everything, .

for every reaction....theres a equal and opposite reaction

and for every surf mag....surf school..surf giant global international trying promote the "sport" ( and of course collect a buck ) there a equal amount surfers willing too tell people too frock off and try and make there surfing expernce horrible so they don't come back

nothing do with u or i

simply a law of physics

p.s hows the old" bra monthly'' (tracks) going still in print

p.p.s got go now thu some eggs @ wicked vans

Such a way with words. Fuck you crack me up, mate!!

I like to call it "mob jazz.""
goddammit put fong on as a colour commentator @ the Bells contest surfmogulcnuts

[newman]

I get a few of the ACP mags (Waves, Tracks) gratis and I read them in the dunny and just throw them away.

Waves is particularly terrible.
In this months issue;

-They devote three pages to Josh Kerrs insane dribbing about how “hard” the tour is and how he couldn’t surf the way he wanted to. Come do my job for a week Josh and then see how bad the tour was.
- There is a fascinating article about Bodyboarding culture, that comes to the Pulitzer winning conclusion that “Some of them are allright and some them are cnuts”
-And to top it off, there is an article that advocates running around in a crowded point lineup on a jetski (when everyone else is paddling in) in order to catch more waves.

Congratulations Waves. With insightful journalism like that, Im ready to sign up for a lifetime subscription.


I have a question. The gratuitous g string booty shots that get a run in every magazine, every month. Do they have permission from the girls to run those photos?

[Surfin Turf]

I have a question. The gratuitous g string booty shots that get a run in every magazine, every month. Do they have permission from the girls to run those photos?

sssssshhhhhhhhh!!!!!......

[Nick Carroll]

I have a question. The gratuitous g string booty shots that get a run in every magazine, every month. Do they have permission from the girls to run those photos?

Look much as I agree with your other critique, I feel I gotta break the news...

The girls knowingly pose for the photographs. Grim...but true.

They then sign model release forms. The photographer sticks the pic on his laptop and goes to work Photoshopping out all the imperfections. Sometimes this takes a while; not everybody is cut out for the task.

Eventually the now pristine image is sent off to the magazine, which runs it along with some salacious commentary. The girls' parents praise her while inwardly their hearts are breaking. The girl thinks "whoopeee! now I'm on the way! Three months and I'll be hosting Australia's Funniest Home Videos." Several thousand 17 year old boys have their innate misjudgement of women shifted ever so slightly further off course. Institutional capitalism makes another few grand to further invest in casinos in Macau. And life as we know it just rolls on down.

[LONGINUS]

i subscribe to surfing magazine and got the latest in the mail yesterday. it's a north shore issue. i never get tired of reading about the north shore, or of looking at the pictures. on the cover nathan fletcher is grabbing his rail in an off-the-wall barrel that's throwing out twice as far as the wave is high. it's a huge barrel, not bad to look at at all. but i'm curious about australasian surf business magazine. i'd never heard of it until nick mentioned it in his thread of questions for the big three reps last week. then yesterday i read on coastalwatch that it won a 'pioneer' award at the 2008 surfing hall of fame awards: 'asb magazine has established a strong and proudly independent niche within the surf publishing market in australia, new zealand and indonesia.' has anyone seen it? what's in it and where you can get it?

Hey Al,

It's a good publication, subscribe at www.asbmag.com. Depends what you are looking for though, it's more targetted at retailers working and or distributing in the surf industry, so surf shops etc. Some good articles and reviews but heeeaps of advertising as you would expect. I actually buy it more for the advertising content / new product info. A lot of tech data on which brands are performing in which division, which are stalling etc etc

Not heavy on surf photos unless you like them in your ads, so if you are anti advertising or a communist, I'd give it a wide berth.

[Chong]

ook much as I agree with your other critique, I feel I gotta break the news...

The girls knowingly pose for the photographs. Grim...but true.

They then sign model release forms. The photographer sticks the pic on his laptop and goes to work Photoshopping out all the imperfections. Sometimes this takes a while; not everybody is cut out for the task.

Eventually the now pristine image is sent off to the magazine, which runs it along with some salacious commentary. The girls' parents praise her while inwardly their hearts are breaking. The girl thinks "whoopeee! now I'm on the way! Three months and I'll be hosting Australia's Funniest Home Videos." Several thousand 17 year old boys have their innate misjudgement of women shifted ever so slightly further off course. Institutional capitalism makes another few grand to further invest in casinos in Macau. And life as we know it just rolls on down.

I salute you Mr Carroll that is one of the most incisive things I have read in a long time about the media's use of unrealistic images to fuel unrealistic expectations around body image, shape and the objectification of perfection. I sense that response was written more as a Father than as a highly informed and connected surf media icon.

Oh and FWIW I buy ASL and still think its an ok read - particularly anything travel related (the more unknown and exotic the better in my books).

[Lucky Al]

i wasn't trying to stir shit when i asked about asb magazine. as a surf mag lover from way back i'm genuinely curious about a mag that can be said to have 'established a strong and proudly independent niche within the surf publishing market'. how has it done it?

[LONGINUS]

Hmm, no idea Al. Sounds like another of those self indulgent, incentuous surf award taglines that don't actually make sense...kind of like describing someones surfing as a blend of east and west philosophies. Always wondered what that meant as well - does it mean he smokes Opium and shoots goofballs?

The mag does offer some fairly unbiased reviews though, doesent have a lot of overheads, no travel sections etc so perhaps they can afford to put down something made by a sponsor in a review and take the hit when they pull their advertising?

[Jamoe]

The print industry is certainly under a lot of strain. What greedy publishers fail to realise is that surfers do not want to skim through pages upon pages of full page ad's - nor, when they read a so called review do they want every board to be good - when in reality there are boards / shapers out there far better or on par, who are not being represented because they are not paying. Would you read your local newspaper if only the advertisers wrote the content? To be honest it is getting that way, with the local rag and the local surf mag. It is full of absoluite sh1t!!!

....

OK - Back on track. When are the big surf brands going to realise that their advertisements are not being looked at!!!!! - when it comes to magazines...? And the cost of producing these ad's? - I dare not think! This is ad agencies pushing their agenda's and not truly looking at where the eyeballs are.....ONLINE(.) Greedy Ad agencies taking their cut and greedy publishers inflating readership figures. With the advent of online - we might see a lot of ad agencies f*ck off as in reality - who needs an "award winning" campaign - when all you really want is to brand to a targeted audience.

Totally agree with you there Spud. Surf mags - like many other areas of print - is old media and in decline. Circulation numbers are average as online usage explodes.

Its sites like Realsurf, Coastalwatch & swellnet in Oz and Surfer's Village, Surfline, World Pro Surfers etc etc etc that are the future of surf journalism. It is in a tranistional period though. Mags are scared, Advertisers unsure and online surf sites a little too optimistic. Its going to be an interesting show to watch over the next couple of years though.

P.S has anyone else been reading the Power rankings for the WCT on Surfline? educational and bloody funny!