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Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:27 am
by Beanpole
Using the traditional Kook defence.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:29 am
by channels
steve shearer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:04 am
Signing waivers usually means close to jackshit in these cases.
Where the waiver covers the actual risks and potential scenarios that could arise, waivers actually mean a lot.
Where the waiver doesn't cover the risk or potential negative outcomes, or what happens in the pool is different to what the waiver suggests, you're correct the waiver means jackshit.
The waiver is pretty detailed and comprehensive, just because he didn't read it, ignored it or though he was better than he was, isn't grounds for the waiver to be chucked out.
There is a condition though, that if staff deem you're not capable of surfing that session, they will remove you from the tub. If he was clearly a kook, and wasn't asked to get out, yeah the pool might be in a spot of bother.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:45 am
by buddy
channels wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:29 am
steve shearer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:04 am
Signing waivers usually means close to jackshit in these cases.
There is a condition though, that if staff deem you're not capable of surfing that session, they will remove you from the tub. If he was clearly a kook, and wasn't asked to get out, yeah the pool might be in a spot of bother.
I’ll admit I skimmed it and didn’t see that.
They never enforce that because there are so many kooks out there and I haven’t seen one asked to come in for that reason.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:15 am
by Beanpole
Right, so you are dodging kooks with an inflated idea of their capabilities on a hard breaking wave with a concrete bottom.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:19 am
by buddy
Sometimes.
Though I wouldn’t call it a hard breaking wave.
But if you can’t read a wave and/or position yourself on a wave you can be a danger to yourself and others out there for sure.
I always identify the kooks and avoid as much as possible having them take the wave before me.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:00 am
by steve shearer
channels wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:29 am
steve shearer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:04 am
Signing waivers usually means close to jackshit in these cases.
Where the waiver covers the actual risks and potential scenarios that could arise, waivers actually mean a lot.
Where the waiver doesn't cover the risk or potential negative outcomes, or what happens in the pool is different to what the waiver suggests, you're correct the waiver means jackshit.
The waiver is pretty detailed and comprehensive, just because he didn't read it, ignored it or though he was better than he was, isn't grounds for the waiver to be chucked out.
There is a condition though, that if staff deem you're not capable of surfing that session, they will remove you from the tub. If he was clearly a kook, and wasn't asked to get out, yeah the pool might be in a spot of bother.
Yeah, depends on what his grounds for suing is.
If he is claiming a design fault, that is likely not covered by the waiver.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:40 pm
by Thud
How do you judge talent, coordination and skill. Very subjective. Guy hasn’t got a leg to stand on, hey maybe that was the issue.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:28 pm
by Beanpole
buddy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:19 am
Sometimes.
Though I wouldn’t call it a hard breaking wave.
But if you can’t read a wave and/or position yourself on a wave you can be a danger to yourself and others out there for sure.
I always identify the kooks and avoid as much as possible having them take the wave before me.
Well yeah, I do that all the time in the surf but if you are cueing for a wave in a pool with a pack of strangers it’s not as easy. Apart from a few visual cues you aren’t going to know till they take off.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:31 pm
by buddy
Nar, you can do it in the pool too if you’re on the ball.
Maybe not set 1
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:36 pm
by channels
Thud wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:40 pm
How do you judge talent, coordination and skill. Very subjective. Guy hasn’t got a leg to stand on, hey maybe that was the issue.
From about 3 minutes in Hindmarsh has a crack. This looks like intermediate but his ability is fairly representative of some who have a crack at advanced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGgSPcF-b5k
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:46 pm
by Thud
Oh..
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:48 pm
by Trev
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:37 am
by steve shearer
They must be haemmorahging investor cash.
Years in and still no commercially on-going concern.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:08 am
by Thud
Question: would surf parks reduce numbers of surfers in the ocean or increase them?
At my place I’m finding less people in the water, probably due to Covid restrictions over. In fact during school holidays I surfed with one other person for about 3 hours across the entire Avoca to North Avoca stretch.
To note there’s a new shark receiver and tagging program here. Shit loads of GWS hits usually around the 2.5 size, they are later picked up around Ballina etc.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:09 am
by Beanpole
channels wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:36 pm
Thud wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:40 pm
How do you judge talent, coordination and skill. Very subjective. Guy hasn’t got a leg to stand on, hey maybe that was the issue.
From about 3 minutes in Hindmarsh has a crack. This looks like intermediate but his ability is fairly representative of some who have a crack at advanced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGgSPcF-b5k
Well you can imagine plenty of similar scenarios where a bunch of drinking buddies all decide to go there. One or two can surf okay and the others just go yeah I can do it. In a normal surf they wouldn’t get past the shorebreak.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:11 am
by Thud
That’s a good point
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:33 pm
by Trev
Today's pic of the Bribie breakthrough clearly showing the channel from the Pelican Waters canal network.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:55 pm
by Beanpole
Poor Steve having to grow up in that pelican infested hell hole. I believe Hatchie used to go over there to do burnt outs and donuts back in the day too.