Who remembers when everyone measured waves the same way?

[chris_010]

Nah. Jus means the particular break where you surfed the 4ft had you crapping your pants.

[greygrom]

The surf has got much bigger since lids moved out of the flag zone.

[macca202]

incase anyone missed what hangten quoted:

"Never measure the wave you missed. It's the one you ride that counts"

I personally don't care much what method people use, as long as they are acurrate with what they use and say what method they're using.
I still hear people calling surf 2-3ft when backs are easy 4 ft. so they're undercalling using an already conservative method.
Obviously it's better if we all use the same method and in that case i reckon the face is the safer bet.

i havn't been for a surf in 2 weeks and all i really care about now is getting a wave, not knowing how to measure it.

[marty]

does it really matter all that much.......?

[greygrom]

1ft to 5ft today

[chrisb]

but do you ever use the term

"It was a SOLID 4ft"

if so, is a solid 4ft larger than a normal 4ft?

No, my idea is that a solid 4' wave barrels whereas 4' just spills gently from the top eg. low tide v high tide.

[Beanpole]

Here’s an old link

I was trawling the internet and came up with this response from Ricky Grigg regarding wave heights - so for all you big-footed surf reporters take note - I guess they have not adapted this system in Ventura County LA as yet 'cause RS reporter is still calling overhead waves at 2-4 feet!


HOW TO MEASURE A WAVE


Written by Ricky Grigg (ultimate big wave & surf legend)
as printed in the Surfers Journal volume 12, number 1, 2003
Ricky Grigg's words……………..

Once upon a time, an old Hawaiian surfer told me that those surfers who measure from the back have already missed the wave. Of course, you could argue that surfers who measure the wave from the back do so on purpose so that they can purposefully underestimate their size. But why would anyone want to do that you ask? Perhaps they are the macho guys. "Shucks ma, that overhead wave is only three feet, at least to me. Its no big deal". But then one day a wise guy like me comes along and says, "Three feet, for an overhead wave? What are you anyway, only three feet tall?" The 5'6" surfer says, "Huh? What?

Are you blind?" "No" I say," maybe you are blind. That overhead wave was way over your fully upright body." "Hey man," he tells me, "you measure waves from the back." I say, "You mean the back of the wave you can't see?" And of course he says, "Right on, dude, right on"
Wish that all this banter was much ado about nothing, but unfortunately it is not. There is a history and a very good reason why so many surfers these days measure from the back. Let's go back about 40 or 50 years in Hawaii and revisit the golden years of surfing and try and find the answer. Back then waves were bigger, bluer, and much less crowded. Surfers at Waikiki rode huge waves all measured from the front. Duke Kahanamoku's famous 1.1mile ride had to have been 20"plus when it first broke at first break (out near Castles). Today's surfers would have called it 10' had they been there. Trouble is, had they been there, they would not have been able to see the wave, at least not from the beach. So how did all this back of the wave nonsense get started anyway?

I was surfing the North Shore in those days, the late 50's, 60's and 70's, and what started to happen very slowly over this time period was a gradual tendency to underestimate waves. As it got worse and worse, everyone started realizing that the smaller the estimates were, the smaller the reports were on the radio and TV, and fewer and fewer people were showing up to surf on any given day. Hey, man, this was way cool. A super cool method began to develop to keep the surf a secret. Eight to 10' waves at Sunset slowly became 4-5' with a few pulses. But how in God's name could anyone call an 8' wave 4', or a 10' wave 5'? Not that difficult. The surfers and lifeguards simply invented an new system of measuring the waves from the back. It worked great, because, of course, waves from the back are about half their size from the front. Since few people could actually see the backs of the waves, few people could disagree or claim otherwise. Fewer Townies went to the North Shore and the local guys had the waves all to themselves. The lifeguards liked it too, because they had fewer people to guard and so they could go surfing longer. The system prospered and more and more surfers grew up believing that measuring the waves from the back was the way to do it.
End of story.

There were a few old-timers around who remembered the old way, the first way, the simple way, the face-value, from-the-top-to-the-bottom way, from the front, from the crest-to-the-trough, the way oceanographers define wave height, the way in which ordinary people can judge a wave simply by looking at it. By its face value. Not only did the old-timers remember, but they also reminded the lifeguards about safety. It wasn't to safe to broadcast to Hawaii's tourists that 8-10' waves were only 4-5'. People drowning and getting slammed into the bottom by shorebreak could sue, and guess what, they did sue. A number of visitors throughout the Islands suffered severe neck injuries producing paraplegia and quadriplegia, all caused by shorebreak waves that were larger than those reported. Several cases were settled or won to the tune of millions of dollars. It was not long before the City and County of Honolulu was under a powerful economic and legal gun to change the system back to the old way of measuring waves from the front by the face. This old way is now called the "new" way, because so many young surfers never heard of the old way, until now perhaps.

The "new" has been adopted by the National Weather Service in Honolulu and is now reported by all of Hawaii's news media: newspapers, radio, TV - everyone. Even the lifeguards are now reporting face values. A special course in how to measure and report surf was designed by the National Weather Service tailored specifically for the lifeguards of the City and County of Honolulu. Over the course of about 15 months (in 2000 and 2001) about 80 lifeguards successfully completed the class. With this new awareness, the lifeguards have embraced the "new" policy. And, there is no question that their first and foremost concern is safety for Hawaii's visitors and residents alike. Its been a rapid transition back to the old way, the simple way, the safe way, and the HONEST way. Its just like my old Hawaiian friend said, "Never measure the wave you missed. It's the one you ride that counts"
……………. The end.