Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:16 pm
Anyone had any experience with their future fins? Worth a go???
I have a set of quads, fcs style
Look alright and I'm sure I rip even more than on the plastic ones
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Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:24 pm
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:23 pm
How big?
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:26 pm
Um, fin size
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:31 pm
Big fins?
....or smaller?
....or smaller?
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:35 pm
Compared to what?
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:14 am
I've got a number of them. Can't tell much difference from the big brands, apart from the massive price difference.
The spiel is they are made in the same factory.
North Coast Surf Traders are coming out with a similar line called Free Fall fins. Again, the prices are very attractive.
The spiel is they are made in the same factory.
North Coast Surf Traders are coming out with a similar line called Free Fall fins. Again, the prices are very attractive.
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:42 am
sure hope they're paying royalties to the fin designers
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:53 am
Has anyone ever received royalties for their board design or construction innovation?
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:58 am
Surftech and Firewire and GSI pay royalties to board designers.
Not sure about fin designers.........The Greenough fin is about the only example I can think of of true intellectual property....other than that, whats the difference between an Al Merrick fin and the thousand other hyper-similar thruster fins that fin foilers have come up with working independently.
Not sure about fin designers.........The Greenough fin is about the only example I can think of of true intellectual property....other than that, whats the difference between an Al Merrick fin and the thousand other hyper-similar thruster fins that fin foilers have come up with working independently.
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:04 am
Royalties for what exactly?
Tab type? Template?
FCS 1 are off patent aren't they?
FCS 2 are still under patent?
Tab type? Template?
FCS 1 are off patent aren't they?
FCS 2 are still under patent?
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:15 am
I'm guessing, that Surftech could legally copy a Donald Takayama board, call the copy a unique name, and sell it without royalties or licensing fees. But Surftech want to brand it as a Donald Takayama and that's where fees are incurred.steve shearer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:58 amSurftech and Firewire and GSI pay royalties to board designers.
Not sure about fin designers.........The Greenough fin is about the only example I can think of of true intellectual property....other than that, whats the difference between an Al Merrick fin and the thousand other hyper-similar thruster fins that fin foilers have come up with working independently.
They are paying for use of the brand name, not so much the design.
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:24 am
well yes, the brand name is the selling point but they are licensing use of the actual design. The shaper/designer send a master shape to Surftech to use as the plug.
So, you are actually getting what is says on the tin, not some no name copy.
The GSI model is a bit more fluid, a bit of licensed designs and then some no name copies.
So, you are actually getting what is says on the tin, not some no name copy.
The GSI model is a bit more fluid, a bit of licensed designs and then some no name copies.
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:41 am
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:21 pm
well the AM2 for instance is an Al Merrick smaller wave fin template, it's long been sold and named as such in both FCS and Futures fin ranges, both those companies pay a royalty to the designer.
Same with YU. Japanese designer whose fin design/s has long been a part of FCS's fin range.
Both are named in the Eclipse range. So yeah they'd wanna be paying a royalty.
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:08 pm
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:10 pm
saltman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:59 pm20% discount at checkout for RSerscrabmeat thompson wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:41 amthe dead kooks society is the place to go for fins around here.
Just enter the code anusdeal
Let the shenanigans begin!
Thanks for the info chaps...i want the jordy fins.
Re: Surf Eclipse fins
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:13 pm
I got the AM2s. Got them home and the left and right were quite different to each other in width/foil. They go good but.