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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by alakaboo » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:13 am

You can't get a physical addiction to LSD, or die from an overdose on it.
Well, you might be able to, but nobody has found the lethal dose yet. It's above 2000 'trips' taken at once, though.

Psychological addiction is a whole 'nother thing.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Beanpole » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:12 am

Cranked wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:41 am
offshore1 wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:36 am
When were the storied cranky H days?
1968 to 1977 (17 to 26), the glory years for drug experimentation. Surfers/hippies were at its centre, travelling in asia and bringing stuff back.

We were lied to about weed and LSD and didn't believe addiction was a thing as there were initially no addicts in our subcultures. The tragedy to come unfolded slowly during those years.
Yep, I started surfing in 1969. By 74 it was open slather on the Nth Coast SE Queensland Border. I kind of side stepped a bit of it going to College in Newcastle. I'd come home at the end of term and more crazy shite would have escalated to the next level. When smack really got rolling it cut a swathe through the Gold Coast. Plus of course guys getting busted importing stuff and doing time in Asian Jails.

Then Inner City Sydney in the early eighties was pretty hard core drug wise. I would say 10% of the people I knew in bands didn't have a major drug problem.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by The Mighty Sunbird » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:25 am

Sounds like you got a book in you, el cranko
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by steve shearer » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:06 am

Cranked wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:41 am


We were lied to about weed and LSD
Who lied to you and what about?
I want Nightclub Dwight dead in his grave I want the nice-nice up in blazes

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by The Mighty Sunbird » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:07 am

People used to say lsd and weed were bad for you
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Cranked » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:09 am

Nearly all my friends had moved up to the mid and north coasts by about 1970. And there was the tragic story of a mate and his girlfriend who disappeared near Varanasi in about 1970 and were never heard from again.

They owned half of a 100 acre property (another friend owned the other half) about 15k inland from Kempsey.

It was errie when we went to visit as their house and all their belongings were left untouched for decades. We would look around at all their clothes and possessions and be overcome with emotion.
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Cranked » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:50 am

steve shearer wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:06 am
Cranked wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:41 am


We were lied to about weed and LSD
Who lied to you and what about?
In mid 60s the counter culture media (including Tracks) was heavily promoting "tune in, turn on and drop out". It was our manta.

To combat this the established media and government campaigned heavily about the evils of drugs, and it was primarily LSD and marijuana they targeted as harder drugs were not generally available and not used widely in any case.

But they did not really distinguish the differences between hard and soft drugs.

So when heroin came along (with the American R and R) in Oz thousands of my generation had already extensively used LSD and marijuana without any bad effects, and when we tried heroin found it euphoric and used it as a party drug.

This went on for a few years and we slowly found out how different it really was, too late for many. If the message had differentiated between hard and soft drugs a lot of lives may have been saved
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Nick Carroll » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:57 pm

Tracks was first published in October 1971

Surf culture was just slipstreaming a generation.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Cranked » Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:07 pm

Nick Carroll wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:57 pm
Tracks was first published in October 1971

Surf culture was just slipstreaming a generation.
That late! It felt like it was always there. So it was just Oz in the early sixties and Nation Review in 1970.

Oz was not that serious at times, but Nation Review was, my generation really thought we had arrived when that came out.

Oh, and how could I forget, Rolling Stone in 1967
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