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Re: Midlengths

Post by steve shearer » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:13 am

yuck!
I want Nightclub Dwight dead in his grave I want the nice-nice up in blazes

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:23 am

buddy wrote:
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In your standard widowmaker cluster, are the sides in a similar position, as well as toe and cant angle that you can just put those box thruster fins in and surf as a thruster if you want?
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“Here's my general 2+1 set up. The side fins are bigger, and back fin an inch or two smaller than the Widow Maker. I originally tried two of Andrew Kidmans' Parmenter Widows bout 10 years ago, which was documented in his early 2000's movie Glass Love, one 6'4 and the other 6'6 ( filmed in perfect 4-6ft supa bank). They felt great in waves above 3ft but the back fin seemed to drag in smaller and lower quality conditions.

So after much trial and error, surfing and sanding, I came to a great balance with these fins, scaling thrusters up and single fins down, moving forward and back. Placed at 6 1/4 and 12 1/2 , I surf this 2+1 most days on the East Coast of Oz ( apart from the Quartets now) and they love ALL conditions from 1-2 ft beachies to cyclone season. Also a couple of seasons in Hawaii, with memorable sessions at Haleiwa and maxing Sunset.

They get away much faster than Thrusters, due to their forward placement but are drivier cause of the larger back fin, plus looser and smoother from the cluster. I do not condemn the Thruster set up in any way, or "truster" it has stabilized surfing and givin a great bench-mark to move on. I may go back there one day
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Re: Midlengths

Post by buddy » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:25 am

steve shearer wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:13 am
yuck!
I wouldn’t do it but seems some would.

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Drailed » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:30 am

Anyone interested in a NPJ 6’10, similar outline to what was posted by Cranked a couple pages ago. Well used but plenty of life in it. $200 no fins.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Hatchnam » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:33 am

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Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:20 am
The only thing I’d say Mike P is that he doesn’t make a lot of 2+1’s. Sure he’ll make you one, no doubt. Wonder if his thought process has changed after pumping out all those Bonzers.

Same as most I looked at that WPF model and thought “2+1” but it wasn’t his inclination to shape and configure that way.

Be interested to hear what he has to say if you fancy sharing HM.
I’ll also be speaking with him about the option of a bonzer speed egg, five finner. It’s not strictly a 2+1 I’m after, but I don’t want a thruster. I like the steadiness and line drive of a bigger centre fin, be that as a pure single fin, or with side fins.

The crux of my communication to him will be “make it work well in 6-8 foot range, and carve hard through a wide range of turns”
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Hatchnam » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:42 am

Ok. So these are mark rabbidge eggs. As you can see sleek elliptical outlines, not too bulky.

My 6’10 is exactly like the outline on one with the yellow rail. And handles size and power, thrives on it. Late drops, backhand snaps. Does everything I need. Surfed BIG south boomerang on it, no probs.

Only thing is it’s now feeling a little narrow at 20” wide, and I could do with a little more thickness.

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Suppose I could always reach out to Mark, but not sure how much he’s shaping these days, plus had both his knees operated on a little while ago.
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Not enough for a full handbeak
steve shearer wrote:full dionysian hand jive body torque

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Re: Midlengths

Post by BA » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:18 pm

Drailed wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:30 am
Anyone interested in a NPJ 6’10, similar outline to what was posted by Cranked a couple pages ago. Well used but plenty of life in it. $200 no fins.
How well used? Got a photo?

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:19 pm

Yeh heard Rabbidge retired. I heard he was great value as well.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Hatchnam » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:26 pm

Thud wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:20 am
Same as most I looked at that WPF model and thought “2+1” but it wasn’t his inclination to shape and configure that way.
What (if any) justification did he give for not going 2+1 with his WPF model? As I’d imagine there’d be variations of the design to accommodate a variety of fin set ups. He even says as much here... https://www.psillakissurfboards.com.au/ ... ts/the-wpf
Even as a single with tail channels could be an option?
Guess I’ll know more about what he thinks and what I’ll decide on after I deal with him.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:54 pm

Didn’t ask. It looks like it’s begging for one. Mikes pretty awesome, I’m sure a 2+1 in that shape would be great. I really like the rails and foil on those boards. They are made for good riding in chunky stuff.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Drailed » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:54 pm

BA wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:18 pm
Drailed wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:30 am
Anyone interested in a NPJ 6’10, similar outline to what was posted by Cranked a couple pages ago. Well used but plenty of life in it. $200 no fins.
How well used? Got a photo?
Yeah PM me your number and I will send you pics
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Re: Midlengths

Post by tootr » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:01 pm

When I saw that WPF outline my first thought was 2+1 as well.

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Re: Midlengths

Post by alakaboo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:24 pm

BA wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:18 pm
Drailed wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:30 am
Anyone interested in a NPJ 6’10, similar outline to what was posted by Cranked a couple pages ago. Well used but plenty of life in it. $200 no fins.
How well used? Got a photo?
You got any fins to go with it, BA?

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Re: Midlengths

Post by BA » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:28 pm

Nah. Thought Loof might hook me up.

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:55 pm

Hatchnam wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:42 am
Ok. So these are mark rabbidge eggs. As you can see sleek elliptical outlines, not too bulky.

My 6’10 is exactly like the outline on one with the yellow rail. And handles size and power, thrives on it. Late drops, backhand snaps. Does everything I need. Surfed BIG south boomerang on it, no probs.

Only thing is it’s now feeling a little narrow at 20” wide, and I could do with a little more thickness.

Image

Suppose I could always reach out to Mark, but not sure how much he’s shaping these days, plus had both his knees operated on a little while ago.
Just had another look at those boards. What are your thoughts on the tails. Was thinking possibly a little round/wide for the stuff you chase. Just a thought.

That WPF tail is pulled in.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Hatchnam » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:15 pm

Well, my rabbidge 6”10 has an identical outline to the yellow railed board (my tail area might be ever so slightly narrower)
Plus it’s quite a bit of rocker curve throughout, and overall quite refined. And so far it’s easily handled 8 foot plus (Iggy scale) boomerang, plenty of 6 foot plus voodoo days, likewise with cronulla point and Sandon. And that’s just as a single fin, without the side bites.
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Not enough for a full handbeak
steve shearer wrote:full dionysian hand jive body torque

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:20 pm

Well there you go. No problems.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Hatchnam » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:40 pm

Here’s the day I took it out at south boomerang. It’s hard to make out the size from the pics, but there’s one with a bloke taking off. The sets were a few feet bigger again.

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Not enough for a full handbeak
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