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Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by yarc » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:20 pm

Just chasing any comments on the two mentioned boards. Still searching, like many for the ultimate midlength board for an older dude. Probably still surf the mal on the points of the sunny coast but would like something that can handle a drop on the beachies or surf the points of Noosa when they get big.( Rare I know, but it does happen.) Currently have a few midlengths (Mct carver, Mct sumo,old Outer Island, South point,Bonga Perkins, Jackson and a G&S ) all have good points but yet to find THE one.
Asked about the titled boards as I can view them up here. Looked at the Pacer today and it looked quite sweet.
So heres the ask, a midlength board(7'' -8') that paddles well, can take a drop on the beaches of the Nthn end of the Sunny Coast Qld,duckdivable (at least one or two waves in a row-at 55 it gets a bit harder on the midlengths to do too many in a row) and could also be used on the small fast days(Beach), where its hard to wheel the 9' around after take off? There you go not asking too much probably just after the ultimate board for a 55 yr old relatively fit, all be it with dodgey knees totally obsessed middle age surfer.

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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by Trev » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:38 pm

yarc,
"Cuttlefish" who posts on here and comes from up your way has already posted a report on here for the Vquad and loves his.

Some links here.

http://forum.realsurf.com/forum/viewtop ... ey#p584672

http://forum.realsurf.com/forum/viewtop ... ey#p587388

http://forum.realsurf.com/forum/viewtop ... ey#p605284

I had a look at a Pacer myself awhile back but elected not to go ahead with it.
But I should also admit to the fact that I have been friends for about 30 years with the Stewart Brothers who now own the Woosley brand so I'm biased.
Beachbeat makes them under licence, but you probably know that.
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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by ctd » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:45 pm

Grant Miller 'specialises' in boards for older guys (and gals)

Mark Richards makes some nice looking middle length boards as well.

Both have websites. Grant is a much nicer/saner guy than his website may suggest!

Not that it answers your question, but since you sort of made a general request these are two guys who are often suggested as answers.

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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by Cuttlefish » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:15 pm

Well it just so happens you've come to the right place.
Trev has directed you to the forum threads where I've talked about the vquad.
As far as I know I've probably got the only one around here.
You can give me a yell to check the board out. Just give Beachbeat a call and they'll give you my number.
Reading through what you're chasing I wouldn't hesitate and say vquad will do all of what you're after and do it very, very well.
Here's a bit of a breakdown between the two.
A part of what differentiates the 2 is the vquads fin five option vs the pacer's 2+1 set up. The pacer crew tend to run a long flex fin with or without sidebites which is going to push its ride towards a cruisier feel.
I'd be trying a more upright centre and even FCS bonzer sides to see how it reacts if I had one.
The vquads five fin plug array looks to more aggression to be rewarded.
I'd ridden a very early Pacer egg in a 6'4" a few years ago and wasn't impressed with it.
Since then Woodsy has been refining it to the point where they sell the two sizes (6'6" and 7' ) with a lot of happy customers.
I actually rode a 7'er for the first time yesterday in really cleaner 2' plus Maroochydore beachies.
I'm 92-95 kgs and the 7'er floats me at my bottom ribs with the board level in the water underneath me.
So there's not a heap of foam and as you know the rails are bladed out and the rocker is flat so it still paddles well and catches waves easily. With its rails it may not like chop too much.
The board handled some steepish takeoffs easily enough and it likes a subtle approach.
You don't push too hard as it has plenty of sensitivity. It's trim speed feels really friction free and it runs down the line really smoothly.
First time I let it run out on the shoulder to carve a cutback I bogged the rail and so after that I made the turns closer to the pocket and with more weight on the tail and the rails bit in nicely.
Running into deeper water and it was easy to move forward to trim across dead sections to the inside.
The bottom is a subtle single to double concave apparently.
It's more of a retro ride compared to the vquad.
The vquad with its deep double has a noticeable gas peddle and you can also do shallow cutbacks or carve downs standing in the centre of the board and it won't catch a rail. Step back on the tail and it will go vertical if you want. Trimming over dead sections the pacer would get the nod due to its wider nose and extra width but they aren't too far apart.
The vquad is so forgiving but not a dull ride at all. You can take off with your feet all over the place or late and it will still let you recover and motor down the line.
I haven't ridden the pacer on my backhand but the vquad is brilliant surfing it backhand.
You can always borrow a 7' pacer demo. I took it for the day (Tuesday) and as soon as I brought it back they had a customer from Caloundra take it for a trial.
The pacer has the retro feel and the vquad has a more progressive feel but the vquad I reckon has a greater wave size range.
Having said that Woodsy has taken 2 of his 6'6"s to Ulus and had fun on them and Gary has taken his 7'er to Java and loved it but I see him on his double concave 8'er when its bigger here.
It will still have you absolutely confident when its bigger or when the takeoffs are more critical whether its beachbreaks or points.
The vquad shares its deep double with Gary from Beachbeat's favourite 8'ers. They've got more of a normal mal nose and I much prefer the vquad's more pulled in nose template.
Since I already have a vquad I'd prefer a 6'6" pacer with maybe even a diamond tail and more foam (because their stock thicknesses would have me floating to my nipples) to surf in sub 3'ers.
I've owned a McT Sumo and Bonga 7'6" and the vquad is ahead of both of them in versatility with the Bonga running in 2nd place and the Sumo being a DNF for me.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by yarc » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:08 pm

Thanks for the replies and especially for you insights Cuttlefish. I was hoping you would impart some of your wealth on this topic. Couldnt get onto the shop today to chase up your number but i believe Caloundra has one in stock so Il see what pans out tomorrow. At the moment I feel the Vquad could be the go for me.
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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by Beerfan » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:27 pm

How do you rate your outer islands? How big is it etc?. Sorry for the off topic!

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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by Cuttlefish » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:32 pm

If you're on the way to Caloundra I'm just off the motorway once you've gone over the Maroochydore river bridge so you're welcome to swing by.
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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by yarc » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:08 pm

Beerfan I am totally desirous of some of the newer Outer island models, especially around the 8ft mark in either the Super Mal or Mondo desigination, the limiting factor for me is the cost and not actually able to see one first hand. Having said that there is a guy who surfs Noosa who has two 9fters and he loves them. The gliding paddle power that this guy generates fascinates me as the older I get the more I understand the importance of the getting into waves early principle and the rest just flows (I Hope) So heres the crunch, for a few years Ive been chasing second hand Outer Island boards and they are few and far between. The one I came across was an older 8ft model (which after contacting Mitchell Rae) i believe was the precursor to his Super Mal models. Its an old board but as most of his boards its made to last (including a beautiful Cedar-I think-stringer) Back to your question on its performance, for me this particular board has way too much nose rocker and doesn't paddle well enough for me. Probably would excel in large hollow waves and it may have been made for that. Have surfed it in solid Granites (6ft plus) but contradictory to my comments about the guys 9fters this board wasnt a good paddler.(Nice and cruisey when it got going with a good burst of speed where needed) The interesting thing about this oldie (and Im not trying to turn this into a beach beat promo) is that the board has BB stickers under the glass. Maybe someone can help, did MItchell Rae ever work with BB. Would I buy one of the models I mentioned earlier if I came across a good deal-you betcha. Not sure how to post photos of the old girl.

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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by Beerfan » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:20 pm

Cheers mate! About the only board that'd tempt me away from another josh dowling would be an outer islands. Even his minimals look sleek and capable for decent waves. The super mal would be a bloody good all rounder at 8' too.

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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by Cuttlefish » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:20 pm

I know some one in Sydney who's got at least one Outer Island mid length.
In fact I told him about a used 8'er that he subsequently bought.
I wasn't interested in it as I have my vquad but I knew he would be as we both have the same tastes in boards.
Here's a link to a tastey Devon Howard egg he has for sale on Ebay should you want to ask him if he'd part with the Outer island.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/161325804212 ... 1423.l2649
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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by yarc » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:23 pm

Hey Cuttlefish can you email me your phone number, as your heaps closer than Caloundra and would love to pick your brains?

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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by Cuttlefish » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:28 pm

Already sent you a PM.
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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by damo666 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:29 pm

Cuttlefish wrote:I know some one in Sydney who's got at least one Outer Island mid length.
In fact I told him about a used 8'er that he subsequently bought.
I wasn't interested in it as I have my vquad but I knew he would be as we both have the same tastes in boards.
Here's a link to a tastey Devon Howard egg he has for sale on Ebay should you want to ask him if he'd part with the Outer island.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/161325804212 ... 1423.l2649
Ohhhh...I like the look of those Howard egg's. Your mate not a fan?

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Re: Woosley Vquad And Beachbeat Pacer Egg

Post by Cuttlefish » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:07 pm

Sorry, been on a surf jaunt and hadn't seen this.
He reckons he's got too many similar boards.
Lucky him!
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