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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by steve shearer » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:20 am

Design wise, the principal feature is a short, parallel (rectangular) planing hull.

This is based off Lindsey Lords Naval Architecture of Planing Hulls who basically devised that a rectangular planing hull had the best characteristics of lift and low drag.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by JET01 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:04 pm

Sounds like an mph would be good for paddle training. The normal 6'0 would paddle like a canoe after a couple of weeks on a harder paddling board.

If it gets too hard to paddle back I'll get off and swim!
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by JET01 » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:20 pm

carvin marvin wrote:
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It's funny. Everytime I think about getting a short (as it sub 6'0) shortboard model, the surf pumps (this arvo at the point was the best I've seen for years. 3-5Ft 16secs south swell barrels), and I realise what a shit paddler I am and how I rely on volume and length to get in. Only made a few drops on the 6'0, was spewing too as I had the 6'2 in the car, but as I was running out of sunlight I didn't go and do the board change.
Maybe I'm better off looking at the SKX rather than the EVO so it's a little more short boardish.
You mention paddling into waves at Cronulla Point.
In the 70's some board makers in the Cronulla area were making a surfboard specifically for catching waves at Cronulla Point.
The theory was to have as much weight in the forward half of the board as possible to make those sucky take offs, they did this by going to the extreme by putting the wide point 3/4 of the way up from the tail.
Seem to recall Peter Glasson even calling them Point boards.
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Doesn't surprise me at all. Ive had better success on the 6'8 single over the last couple of days.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by JET01 » Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:55 am

Picking up a second hand 5'5 LFT evo this week.

Here goes.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by Beerfan » Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:26 pm

Let us know what you think mate.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by batoes » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:29 am

yeah - super keen to hear what you think.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by Beerfan » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:20 am

The interest for me is how they all seem (according to reviews) to be good at being fast. Fast boards make up for my deficiency in skill lol. Evo sounds like it's also good for more average style waves. Also a bonus.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by JET01 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:22 pm

If I can get to my feet and get through a few turns on it, I'll be stoked.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by steve shearer » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:06 pm

to be brutally honest here, the MPH are really advanced surfboards for highly skilled surfers and are likely to retard your surfing if you don't fit that category.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by Beerfan » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:49 pm

I realise that Steve, I don't have one.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by JET01 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:59 pm

steve shearer wrote:
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to be brutally honest here, the MPH are really advanced surfboards for highly skilled surfers and are likely to retard your surfing if you don't fit that category.
Thanks Steve, I appreciate the heads up.

I don't fit into that category at all, far from it. It's too late now as I picked up the board today on my lunch break. i've always liked to try new things, and the benefit of buying second hand is that I won't lose too much cash in the process.

My concerns are that this is the shortest board I've ever ridden and that it wont paddle aswell as my 6'0 of similar rocker and volume. Not that worried though, as worse case will be, my paddling will improve a little and my normal board will feel a bit easier to surf. And I might be $50 out of pocket for the experience.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by JET01 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:12 pm

steve shearer wrote:
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to be brutally honest here, the MPH are really advanced surfboards for highly skilled surfers and are likely to retard your surfing if you don't fit that category.
Thanks Steve, I appreciate the heads up.

I don't fit into that category at all, far from it. It's too late now as I picked up the board today on my lunch break. i've always liked to try new things, and the benefit of buying second hand is that I won't lose too much cash in the process.

My concerns are that this is the shortest board I've ever ridden and that it wont paddle aswell as my 6'0 of similar rocker and volume. Not that worried though, as worse case will be, my paddling will improve a little and my normal board will feel a bit easier to surf. And I might be $50 out of pocket for the experience.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by Beerfan » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:37 am

Yeah I'm a fan of trying different things as well, regardless of if I should or not lol

You'll definately learn something mate. I'm sure it'll be fun
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by swvic » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:52 am

Had a Tomo V4. Admittedly, it was 5'9", but if you take the pointy nose into account it probably fits a 5'4" cut off. I don't consider myself an advanced surfer, but that board was perhaps the best shorty I've ever had. Paddled better than I expected too. If my shoulder wasn't so fcuked, I'd have stayed on that path. Can't imagine them being any good at all with extra foam. Excepting the fragility of it (hand-shaped poly), everything aspect of the shape worked in sync with the way I surfed
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by JET01 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:57 pm

I'm taking a big bite that's for sure. Maybe more than I chew.
30.5L lowest volume by a mere .5L
5'5 shortest by an inch. Had a few waves on a 5'6 webber mini fish. Never really gave it a proper chance as the super flat rocker wasn't my cup of tea.
Hopefully get in tomorrow arvo.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by JaM71 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:50 am

JET01 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:57 pm
I'm taking a big bite that's for sure. Maybe more than I chew.
30.5L lowest volume by a mere .5L
5'5 shortest by an inch. Had a few waves on a 5'6 webber mini fish. Never really gave it a proper chance as the super flat rocker wasn't my cup of tea.
Hopefully get in tomorrow arvo.
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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by pirate_agenda » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:22 am

you should be fine.

I've shaped and ridden heaps of similar style ones. I love the evo style for 1-3ft surf. Anything with a bit more power i preferred my older vanguard style one, as you get more bite in the tail with the swallow.

i'm normally around 5'9 and 90kg, and ride 5'4 x 19 1/4 x 2 1/2 around 31-32 L. recently my weight weight up near 100 after 6 months out of the water with injuries, and admittedly 5'4 @ 32L was a handful to paddle and catch waves with that weight and thickness, but was still fine once I was on the wave.

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Re: Modern Planing hulls

Post by pirate_agenda » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:28 am

on another note - due to the parallel outline, they ride a LOT longer than a conventional shape. So don't be afraid to go super short.

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