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Re: What shortboard
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:53 pm
by Drailed
Lol, maybe I dont either - I just need to become a better surfer!
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:54 pm
by Davros
funny eh, I didnt have a thruster for 18 months to 2 years, I mainly rode 2+1's and kind of just accepted this was what i was going to ride, it takes a while to get used to them as well, being drivey etc.., bit of weight in them as well. Then thought sh*t I dont have a thruster, so over a period bought a couple I really like and it was easy to jump back on them. I then thought f*ck I'll go back to my 2+1's.......wasn't as easy as i remembered to get them dialed after riding the tri's. No real reason for blagging about this bar sharing experience and maybe if your on a good thing etc..
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:01 pm
by Hatchnam
A thruster shorty for 4-6 foot junky sectiony beach beaks for 6 foot 2 bloke ?
Just make sure it's not too wide flat or thick (avoid anything eggy or fish like) and adversely, nothing too rockered or low railed and refined (nothing indo step up like).
Moderation is the key. Moderate rocker, not too much volume or foil, go boxier on the rails so they don't bog on dead sections, squash tail roundtail or swallow.
If you're not familiar with riding shorties, then I'd be hesitant in splurging on a custom. Instead I'd shuffle thru gumtree or eBay for a while buying and reselling a few til you find what works for you.
You'll want a board that's user friendly but still high performance. But just don't go too formula 1 with it all .
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:09 pm
by Hatchnam
And while I totally agree with Natho about not getting too hung up on brand names or new boards or customs etc , by way of "design" something along the lines of the 7s salt shaker wouldn't be a bad option.
http://www.surfindustries.com/surfboard ... ker-cv.php
A board like that will handle a good range of conditions, sloppy or clean and grinding.
Oh, and if your committed to "getting a thruster" then don't buy some 5 fin set up with the thruster or quad option, just get a thruster and be done with it.
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:35 pm
by Cranked
Beerfan wrote:Check out outerislands surfboards. Beautiful lines, no fancy wings hips dips or whatever the latest gimmick is, just surfboards for good waves.
Fcuk yeah. Last time I was in Bali on the first day of the big swell (8' faces), four older guys, all on Outer Island boards (7'-7'6"), paddled out and nearly dominated on the set waves. It was a very long session (4 hours plus) so I got to see them catch an awful lot of waves and negotiate lots of really critical sections. It was A-team time, so I was just picking up the slops, and in a good position - caught inside after surviving numerous closeouts - to watch them at work.
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:43 pm
by Cranked
Just googled to try and get some pics of Michael Ray, and yeah, I think it was him and his mates.
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 11:30 am
by corles
Firewire Baked Potato LFT 5'7 vs Stacey Return of the Jam 6'0 (both 39L)?
Anyone have any experience or thoughts on these two? Looking for a small wave machine that can handle up to head high with some fin adjustments. (39yo 75kg)
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 11:46 am
by 2nd Reef
corles wrote:Firewire Baked Potato LFT 5'7 vs Stacey Return of the Jam 6'0 (both 39L)?
Anyone have any experience or thoughts on these two? Looking for a small wave machine that can handle up to head high with some fin adjustments. (39yo 75kg)
A 5'7" FW Baked Potato is very generously volumed. I weigh just a couple of kegs more than you and have been riding a 5'3" version lately, there's plenty enough foam for even the smallest of days. My one is about 21 inches wide and has a flat deck, so despite it being short there's a disproportionate (to a normal shortboard) amount of foam packed into the width.
Haven't ridden the Stacey but I've fondled a few. Again, I reckon a 5'9" or 5'10" would be a more suitable size. Due to conventional planshape you might need slightly more volume on the Stacey than you would on the FW.
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 1:39 pm
by Beerfan
Cranked wrote:Beerfan wrote:Check out outerislands surfboards. Beautiful lines, no fancy wings hips dips or whatever the latest gimmick is, just surfboards for good waves.
Fcuk yeah. Last time I was in Bali on the first day of the big swell (8' faces), four older guys, all on Outer Island boards (7'-7'6"), paddled out and nearly dominated on the set waves. It was a very long session (4 hours plus) so I got to see them catch an awful lot of waves and negotiate lots of really critical sections. It was A-team time, so I was just picking up the slops, and in a good position - caught inside after surviving numerous closeouts - to watch them at work.
I surfed mine this morning
, in conditions that are the complete polar opposite lol
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 3:05 pm
by corles
2nd Reef wrote:corles wrote:Firewire Baked Potato LFT 5'7 vs Stacey Return of the Jam 6'0 (both 39L)?
Anyone have any experience or thoughts on these two? Looking for a small wave machine that can handle up to head high with some fin adjustments. (39yo 75kg)
A 5'7" FW Baked Potato is very generously volumed. I weigh just a couple of kegs more than you and have been riding a 5'3" version lately, there's plenty enough foam for even the smallest of days. My one is about 21 inches wide and has a flat deck, so despite it being short there's a disproportionate (to a normal shortboard) amount of foam packed into the width.
Haven't ridden the Stacey but I've fondled a few. Again, I reckon a 5'9" or 5'10" would be a more suitable size. Due to conventional planshape you might need slightly more volume on the Stacey than you would on the FW.
No problems, thanks for the heads up 2nd Reef, will see if I can test a few in the smaller sizes. Thanks again.
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 3:13 pm
by corles
2nd Reef wrote:corles wrote:Firewire Baked Potato LFT 5'7 vs Stacey Return of the Jam 6'0 (both 39L)?
Anyone have any experience or thoughts on these two? Looking for a small wave machine that can handle up to head high with some fin adjustments. (39yo 75kg)
A 5'7" FW Baked Potato is very generously volumed. I weigh just a couple of kegs more than you and have been riding a 5'3" version lately, there's plenty enough foam for even the smallest of days. My one is about 21 inches wide and has a flat deck, so despite it being short there's a disproportionate (to a normal shortboard) amount of foam packed into the width.
Haven't ridden the Stacey but I've fondled a few. Again, I reckon a 5'9" or 5'10" would be a more suitable size. Due to conventional planshape you might need slightly more volume on the Stacey than you would on the FW.
What are you running for fins on the 5'3 baked potato, any particular setup that is working well? Thanks
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:00 pm
by 2nd Reef
I'm riding it as a quad with FCS H2 front fins for extra lift, and on the rears I'm using the front fins from an FCS AM set. Any rear fins with generous surface area and extra rake would be good - it's a short board with little rail line so you want drive. I'm not too bothered about the AMs being single foiled, the fin config on the Baked Potato is rail centric anyway, plus I'm not a big believer in double foils on rear quad fins.
This set up is going fine.
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 6:53 am
by surfywurfy
ctd wrote:Has anyone surfed one of those outer island 'flex tails'? Thoughts?
YES!....How fast do you wanta go
VERY FAST = a normal stringered Outer
very FASTER = a V-flex tail
extremely very FASTER = a carbon tail
I've owned all 3 variations and they all work extremely well
what I cant comment on is the V-flex + carbon tail models " the ultimate in flex" is how Mitchell describes them....this model costs LOTS!
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 10:43 am
by Beerfan
I have a v2 flex supermal. Only a few surfs on it ( not surfing much at all ). Last surf the other day was in the biggest I've surfed on it ( head high sets ) and I haven't yet noticed the flex. You need a punchy wave. My jd keel fish i could feel the overall flex return ( parabolic rail ), but again only when it was in punchy waves. Not necessarily big, just fast breaking and punchy.
It's a beautiful feeling loading up a turn and feeling like you're being propelled faster out of the turn than into the turn. Feels like the turn is much tighter too
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:29 pm
by Cuttlefish
Beery,
You'd love my DVS weiner 6'3" with its Webber flex fin set up. Takes a high line that is illuminating since there's a long fin in the water on your upper rail and then into a bottom turn and you can really feel the fins load up and then twangggggg.
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:46 pm
by Beerfan
Pics or it doesn't exist!
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:09 pm
by Davros
How's your Weiner compare to the All Rounder?
Re: What shortboard
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 9:20 pm
by Cuttlefish
A weiner is just a different name for the allrounder when its lengths under 7'.