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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:58 am
by Hatchnam
paging crabmeat, shearer, carroll, legion, saltman, et al

as much as i (rightfully) take the piss out of "older dudes on hi-performance thrusters" (because often see so much sub-par surfing on such) i'm back in the market for a hi-perf thruster myself

:lol:

still want to keep surfing singles for all the flow and grace on those lovely walled up days, but after a board to rip the bag out of beach break conditions, from say somewhat punchy chest high through to double overhead drainpipes. a board for high n tight short arc hacking in the pocket, or drawn out rail carves out of the face.

i'm a bit out the loop on what's out there today (shapers, models, etc) so please submit your recommendations.

me specs = 45yrs old, 5"10, 30 plus years exp, competent, 78kg, surfing 3-4 days a weeks, surf fit (can surf for hours, paddle my ring out etc), style is more old-school (eighties era).

was thinking a board around the 32-33 litres (i like a bit more volume for glide speed) and somewhere around 6'2 x 20 x 2 5/8 (geared more for the smaller wave end of the spectrum) or 6'3 x 19.75 x 2 5/8 (for the upper range), round tail (rounded pin or pulled in squash).

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:42 am
by tootr
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:43 am
by channels
Hypto Krypto? :mrgreen:


Ive been feeling up a Lost Stealth and List Quiver Killer lately, thinking about getting one shortly.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:46 am
by Nick Carroll
Well hatchy that is a pretty straightforward and popular recipe in modern hi per surfing, you'll find heaps of versions of it in shop racks. I think a lot of boardmakers have been influenced by the past couple of excellent seasons in Indo and also by JJF/Pyzel's success with that stye of board (see shearer's recent Ghost)

If I were you I'd just wander some shops and have a look. You'll know more about what you need than I do, plus browsing good surfboard shops is a pleasure these days as long as you can avoid too much sales staff interaction. I do think Simon A is way up at or near the head of the pack for that sort of board and is excellent at hiding volume -- so you get paddle power etc without sacrificing fine edge bite. Chilli also. Mike Psillakis for maybe a more direct surfer shaper conversation. Warner, Hayden, both have fine examples of the style in their quivers.

I look at your weight and height and think 20" is pretty wide for that length of board, it'll glide along and turn off the outline but the full rocker line turn will evade you, the rocker is harder to get to as board width increases. Maybe think more about 19" over 6'2" or 6'3" so the outline curve draws a bit and you can get to the rocker faster in a turn. You can still get to 32/33 litres easily on such a width just by the designer being clever with thicknesses.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:20 pm
by Hatchnam
Thanks Nick. Appreciate it. Understand the narrower board is better for more response though I’m a broad as hell shouldered ape and have found going a bit wider adds some more base stability (I could probably go 19.25). Might even have a chat to Stuart Paterson about a custom

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:08 pm
by Thud
"The full rocker line turn will evade you". Happening on my backhand on a particular fishie short board. Back leg feels straighter than usual on the top turn. Driving me insaaaaaaaane

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:06 pm
by alakaboo
Iggy, this is my HPT for the weekend warrior (not the green summer board)
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=19546&p=608322&hili ... er#p608322

6'0"x19 1/2"X 2 1/2" (roughly)
31l, roughly.
Stretched to 6'2" would be perfect.

It was custom but has the Mick Fanning rocker curve.
That curve makes me a much better surfer.

What happened to the psilakis I sold you?
He's very good at hiding foam too.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:17 pm
by Thud
Ok guys, for philistines like me here is a good explanation of rocker lines

http://www.surfline.com/blogs/talking-d ... ide_42394/

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:17 pm
by Hatchnam
that looks heaps nice kaboo. plenty of old-school foam-hide in there and the curvier rocker would make that thing sing in steep sections.

psillakis? i destroyed that thing yearsss ago. jesus it was a fun board at the time though, especially on backhand snaps. very webber afterburner (first version) type design.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:00 pm
by Thud
A buddy of mine was riding boards slightly wider than he had in the past. While he enjoyed the ease of paddling he got bored. Bought a Chilli Peri Peri and is now a very happy dude. Check it out sounds like it could be in the vast options list

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:14 pm
by steve shearer
Hey Toots I'm in Coffs smashing Motackle. Any surf around?

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:47 pm
by tootr
not looked since lunchtime.

15-20kt NE.
hit up one of the many backbeach options. or the obvious one if u dont wanna drive.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:08 pm
by BA
Hatchnam wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:20 pm
Thanks Nick. Appreciate it. Understand the narrower board is better for more response though I’m a broad as hell shouldered ape and have found going a bit wider adds some more base stability (I could probably go 19.25). Might even have a chat to Stuart Paterson about a custom
You saw my Rare Bird Iggs. I'm stoked with it. Paddles like a demon. Handles head high no problems. A 6'1 would have you around 33ltrs. I'm on a 5'10, but I picked up a 6'0 as well at their sale.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:24 pm
by Hatchnam
Yeah the rare bird looks nice for sure. But might go for something a bit narrower. and as thruster only (@ anyone - does the quad/thruster option work well interchangeably?)

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:28 pm
by Nick Carroll
ah I don't reckon. I know the five plug thing is kinda the go to for models in shops these days but five plugs tend to block up the tail flex. And the performance values are quite different, like if you want a quad get a quad, at that length it'll probably be a swallowtail anyway.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:30 pm
by PeepeelaPew
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:31 pm
by alakaboo
I'm not sold on the idea.

I only have one board with a 5 fin setup, that green one linked above, but never really been tempted to try it as a thruster.

Nick and leej beat me.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:48 pm
by Hatchnam
Good. That’s what I figured also. And as for quads, I’ve had my stint on them and over them. Warp speed for beating down sections but not as much turning and less accuracy with turns vs thruster