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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by Yuke Hunt » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:43 am

Oh vote vote vote vote ... and lets all fcuk the shaven goat ... at the alter of the bald won gloat ... aboard the boat and smoke and choke ... on reality as it pokes its bloated core puss fcuk arse ideas ... down our throats ... suck us in ... your face and mock us ... yes you ... you cnut.

Vote for what ... ha ha ha

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by Shane Peel » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:12 am

LONGINUS wrote:
Shane Peel wrote:OK the votes are in and it's a mixed bag, seems there are a lot of journos on the radar but in this instance it was a battle between the balding and one already bald man. The younger and might I ad slightly taller of the two Mr Steve Shearer takes it but as an accolade to Mr Carroll and Mr Murdoch (who copped some friendly fire on the sidelines) I'm gonna try and come up with an excuse to get both their ragged butts up later in the year. As an added bonus considering Sheep has parted ways with the bus company and is dealing with a fresh off-spring we will throw 500 bucks toward an air fare. Shearer PM me with your email addy and lets get a date sorted.
PS. I'm waxing up a nice surftech mal that you are gonna love mate :twisted: :twisted:
Fcuking please, as if you need Shearers email address :lol: holly fkuc suprise the other two prizes went to Morrison men - I will admit though that I stopped reading Aust Longboarder after you sold it to Morrison Media Shane, shame that, Surftech ads always felt different to me afterwards. Still, a free trip to Latitude Zero Resort in the Telo Islands is a great prize - nice one Shane. :!:
I thought you were on the way to Brasil Longi? Straight up buddy I don't have Steve's email address and I'm not sure if you have followed this thread too closely I guess you are busy with the website you spend so much time promoting here, mate I'm bummed you stopped reading ALB I reckon Bruce Channon and the MM crew are doing a great job with it. You even got the name of the resort I'm involved with wrong which is kind of scary for readers of your "Travel" website cause if your not aware of something as simple as who is where God knows what other stuff is wrong on there … or maybe you were just being silly and have under estimated the intelligence of the viewers on RS and their ability to spot a simple bitter shot at some one??? LIke I said at the VERY START of this thread this is not a promo mate, RS is a forum I thought a net savvy guy like you would understand that if you use the forum to promote your website or products you need to do it in the right area. Shearer is going to surf some perfect waves in Indo and you well I guess you are just going to keep being … weird.

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by Shane Peel » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:16 am

Womble wrote:Oh vote vote vote vote ... and lets all fcuk the shaven goat ... at the alter of the bald won gloat ... aboard the boat and smoke and choke ... on reality as it pokes its bloated core puss fcuk arse ideas ... down our throats ... suck us in ... your face and mock us ... yes you ... you cnut.

Vote for what ... ha ha ha

Peels what you do to a orange ...
Geez Womble that's a cryptic one for early in the morning is it a late vote or are you on medication and have forgotten to take it? Does rhyme though and nice one on the orange call I've never seen that before :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by mustkillmulloway » Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:08 am

congrats shearer....hope u don't have a baaaaaaaad time :lol: ( sheep joke :roll: )

are you going write up a ad....opps i mean travel article on the trip for geeknet :?: :idea: :arrow:

now peely....can u pleae fu.ck off.... :?:

you sound like such a cock all the time :idea:

it's kinda sad this is the big thread from bells hey....a debate over who wrote the most b/s and gets surf fat indo log waves as a prize :cry: ( just quietly nick must be devestated....i heard he ordered a new clubbie board for the trip :shock: )

kelly really needs get his tour off the ground if this the current state the art

who won the comp btw :?:

p.s how does shearer find sheep in long grass......confortable :lol: ...baaaaaaad sheep joke again :roll:

sorry :wink:
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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by steve shearer » Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:33 am

Shane Peel wrote: I'm gonna weigh in on this post. I have attended Bells a shit load of times in the past 15 years and that Myth and mystique can be easily lost on those who have not...

It's the same with Bells. Journos like NC and Hynd have been part of that mythology and hence have a special relationship with the place that gives them a massive advantage.

Missing the Point Shane. I'm as much of a history tragic as any on here.
I walked one day from Juc into Torquay along the cliffs, came to a boutique little photography/over-priced surfboard shop.

There was a lovely canvas framed shot of a lion maned Nick Carroll in 1981, coiled at the base of a Bells Boomer, straddling the historical fence of an Era he would come to document.
I respect history.
But when the myth and mystique gets crusty and stale and "journos" regurgitate the same old tired angles it all starts to sound like the worst kind of propaganda, wheeled out by wheezy hacks whose imagination dried up years ago.
The same kind of "we did this, then we did that" kind of rote BS we've been getting fed for years.

Anyway it's churlish in the extreme to argue with a bloke whose offering some time in Indo, so I thank-you for the prize. And I accept it graciously.

Can't help thinking this is some kind of bizarre plot you and Carroll have hatched. Your gunna drug me with leftover high blood pressure medication and Viagra and take photos of me surfing on a glossy pop-out mal with a priapic grin on my face.
Though Carroll was acting kind of wierd at Bells; at the time I put it down to Pen Envy, as he gazed at my magnificently thick writing sword. Shoulda known he had something cooking.

Here for serious fans and students of Pro Psychology is a series of small interviews I did down at Bells.
I wanted to find out how they were feeling about the pressure to maintain relevance in the eyes of the judges.

I thought Bobby Martinez was gunna deck me when I suggested he was a veteran.
"I ain't a veteran , I'm new, I'm new".

Fanning's position is to deflect, deflect.

Slater: Hosing down hype and undercutting the confidence of the rookies, and giving plenty of clues about his state of mind for o-ten.

http://www.vimeo.com/10908174
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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by Quangers » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:22 pm

Steve,
A great interview with Slater but FMD vimeo is the slowest piece of shitte site ever - 4 minutes took about 10. :x

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by Grooter » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:06 pm

Nice work on the videos and the interviews Steve
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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by silvafish » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:42 am

the outcome from this post shows the passion we all have with anything to do with the surf...well done everyone,we all gave the rug a massive and needed shake...and to the pricks that right peel off,well get a bluebottle to the face..thanks to all the scribes that made it happen..and brad buff..i cringed when you fluffed my post....knob

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by LONGINUS » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:11 am

Shane Peel wrote:
LONGINUS wrote:
Shane Peel wrote:OK the votes are in and it's a mixed bag, seems there are a lot of journos on the radar but in this instance it was a battle between the balding and one already bald man. The younger and might I ad slightly taller of the two Mr Steve Shearer takes it but as an accolade to Mr Carroll and Mr Murdoch (who copped some friendly fire on the sidelines) I'm gonna try and come up with an excuse to get both their ragged butts up later in the year. As an added bonus considering Sheep has parted ways with the bus company and is dealing with a fresh off-spring we will throw 500 bucks toward an air fare. Shearer PM me with your email addy and lets get a date sorted.
PS. I'm waxing up a nice surftech mal that you are gonna love mate :twisted: :twisted:
Fcuking please, as if you need Shearers email address :lol: holly fkuc suprise the other two prizes went to Morrison men - I will admit though that I stopped reading Aust Longboarder after you sold it to Morrison Media Shane, shame that, Surftech ads always felt different to me afterwards. Still, a free trip to Latitude Zero Resort in the Telo Islands is a great prize - nice one Shane. :!:
I thought you were on the way to Brasil Longi? Straight up buddy I don't have Steve's email address and I'm not sure if you have followed this thread too closely I guess you are busy with the website you spend so much time promoting here, mate I'm bummed you stopped reading ALB I reckon Bruce Channon and the MM crew are doing a great job with it. You even got the name of the resort I'm involved with wrong which is kind of scary for readers of your "Travel" website cause if your not aware of something as simple as who is where God knows what other stuff is wrong on there … or maybe you were just being silly and have under estimated the intelligence of the viewers on RS and their ability to spot a simple bitter shot at some one??? LIke I said at the VERY START of this thread this is not a promo mate, RS is a forum I thought a net savvy guy like you would understand that if you use the forum to promote your website or products you need to do it in the right area. Shearer is going to surf some perfect waves in Indo and you well I guess you are just going to keep being … weird.
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Cmon Shane, the ALB thing was meant as a compliment and I was sure you would have seen the funny side of the Latitude Zero thing..some people are so hard to please.

You haven't been on these forums for long Shane, but I will guess you will eventually figure out how they work. Calling for a mod to bail you out on here though...hahah that was fckink priceless - I split my side over that one, what do you think this is Coastalwatch or something? This is where the grown ups post - but I'm pretty sure you knew that before you started posting here :wink:

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by LONGINUS » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:17 am

Rockin' Ron wrote:And Longinus...you've promoted your shit way over and above anyone else on here and you're coming off as an insecure hypocrite. Shut up idiot.
more...give me more....
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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by thermalben » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:59 pm

Shane Peel wrote:The other KEY factor is when Easter falls and the date the event runs. Right on the cusp of Victoria's REAL wave season Bells is often a feast or famine deal
Peely, gotta bring up this point as we had long debates in the Swellnet house about it - I just don't think there's much merit in the suggestion that some years (like this year) suffered because the event was held too 'early' in the season. Tahiti's been pretty much skunked in the 'right' part of the season for the better part of the last 5 years. And, there's been as many shitful days at Snapper in the last four or five years as good days - all of which were held during late Feb/Mar, which is primo time for the Gold Coast.

Whilst seasonal swell patterns are well understood across the globe, surfing competitions that require 4 excellent days out of a possible 11 are generally pushing their luck at any location, at any time of the year. Unlike other weather phenomena that vary from season to season (ie hoping for an early snowfall in April or May, rather than peak season in August), your chances of 4 good days in 11 at Bells are only a little higher in the depths of the 'swell season' than they are at other times of the year. Nudging the Rip Curl Pro backwards and forwards by two weeks (either side of Easter) really won't increase the chances of good waves for the event by any appreciable level.

If the contest organisers were deadset on scoring epic Bells every year, their best option would be to move the Rip Curl Pro to late winter or early spring (generally the most active time of the year for waves) - but even then you'd be a game person to bet on 4 excellent days at the Bowl.

Just my 2c worth.

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by jimmy » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:15 pm

How about a longer waiting period??? There seems to enough of a gap between to comps to allow an increase without spilling over to the other events.. Yeah the surfers would get less time at home between events but surely a larger window would increase the chances of swell?
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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by thermalben » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:23 pm

possibly - but the running costs are very expensive as it is. There's around 200 people on site at each event; an extra day adds a lot of money to the event's bottom line.. just in the hope that it'll guarantee good waves (which it doesn't).

I don't know if there's a solution for this - personally, I think we should leave it as is. Nothing wrong with a road trip anyway - spices up the event and gives the webcast team a good 24 challenge :D Reducing the field (as they will after Tahiti) to make each comp a 3 day event will certainly improve the chances that all heats will be run in better surf overall.

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by mustkillmulloway » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:07 pm

thermalben wrote:I don't know if there's a solution for this - .
a fully mobile event :?:

but than rip curl and scribes can't sell myths :roll:
thermalben wrote: There's around 200 people on site at each event; an extra day adds a lot of money to the event's bottom line.. .

excessive :?: :idea:
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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by thermalben » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:22 pm

Fong, I reckon your average local club rally would have 40-50 people in attendance, and they're all just surfing. Every major surfing magazine and/or surfing website from around the world had a team of 2-6 people on site at Bells Beach (including overseas publications). The webcast team was (at a rough guess) about 20+ people, including the international commentators - it's not just Reggae and a cameraman on the beach. Then there's the Telstra guys, the Foxtel guys, caterers, security, amenity providers and competition staff plus all of the surfers and their entourage (managers/girlfriends/photogs etc) - it all adds up pretty quickly. Quite the spectacle, as it were.

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by thermalben » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:24 pm

PS>> the Rip Curl Pro is a fully mobile event :?: 4 different locations over 4 different days. Johanna and 13th were a hell of a lot better than anything Bakio's dished up over the last 5 years! :lol:

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by Shane Peel » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:00 pm

thermalben wrote:
Shane Peel wrote:The other KEY factor is when Easter falls and the date the event runs. Right on the cusp of Victoria's REAL wave season Bells is often a feast or famine deal
Peely, gotta bring up this point as we had long debates in the Swellnet house about it - I just don't think there's much merit in the suggestion that some years (like this year) suffered because the event was held too 'early' in the season. Tahiti's been pretty much skunked in the 'right' part of the season for the better part of the last 5 years. And, there's been as many shitful days at Snapper in the last four or five years as good days - all of which were held during late Feb/Mar, which is primo time for the Gold Coast.

Whilst seasonal swell patterns are well understood across the globe, surfing competitions that require 4 excellent days out of a possible 11 are generally pushing their luck at any location, at any time of the year. Unlike other weather phenomena that vary from season to season (ie hoping for an early snowfall in April or May, rather than peak season in August), your chances of 4 good days in 11 at Bells are only a little higher in the depths of the 'swell season' than they are at other times of the year. Nudging the Rip Curl Pro backwards and forwards by two weeks (either side of Easter) really won't increase the chances of good waves for the event by any appreciable level.

If the contest organisers were deadset on scoring epic Bells every year, their best option would be to move the Rip Curl Pro to late winter or early spring (generally the most active time of the year for waves) - but even then you'd be a game person to bet on 4 excellent days at the Bowl.

Just my 2c worth.
Yeah it could be more myth than fact Ben I guess you can answer it pretty quick with a scan through historical data on any forecasting site. In all honesty I reckon ANY swell really only has two good days (with the exception of those 40 year storm deals) I don't think it's any secret that a 16 man field is the ultimate for a broadcast event and I reckon that's the direction the events are headed… like most businesses trim off the fat and get the same result for the stakeholders. Good news for the WQS and good news for the WCT. Either way the call at Bells would have been a harrowing affair mate glad you survived it intact. Now how about the south that is headed up the east coast directly hows THAT thing gonna pan out :D :D :D :D

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Re: Time to start judging the journos!

Post by Buff_Brad » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:35 am

silvafish wrote:the outcome from this post shows the passion we all have with anything to do with the surf...well done everyone,we all gave the rug a massive and needed shake...and to the pricks that right peel off,well get a bluebottle to the face..thanks to all the scribes that made it happen..and brad buff..i cringed when you fluffed my post....knob
I don't get a flying fcuk whether you cringed or not.

I just agreed with you , you fcukwit.

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