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Re: thick fins

Post by Roy_Stewart » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:04 pm

Nick Carroll wrote:
Foil is pretty much a settled issue
Let's face it you don't know what you are talking about, but feel the need to express an opinion anyway.

Said opinion consists of basically saying 'shut up and leave it to the experts' while giving the impression that you are one, when you are not.


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Re: thick fins

Post by Roy_Stewart » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:19 pm

Anyway, I usually use laminar foils. These are foils which have the thickest part back at 45 to 50 percent aft. They are lower in drag provided that the angle of attack is relatively low, and they are kept clean.

Thickness wise the accepted range for marine foils is 9% to 14% of the chord length, that's just a rule of thumb though and as we have seen surfboard fins down to 6% work very well, as do thicker ones.

To some extent thickness is related to the position of the thickest part of the fin. for example a thinner fin can be used if it has the thickest part of the foil well forward at say 25% to 30%, conversely a thicker fin can compensate for the thickness by having the thickness aft. That's what I tend to do.

By the way NACA foils are not always ten percenters. The NACA number tells us what the foil parameters are : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NACA_airfoil

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Re: thick fins

Post by dUg » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:40 am

:!:
rincon_solid.jpg

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Re: thick fins

Post by dUg » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:48 am

:idea:
fin_sections.jpg
... and if you think I'm posting cross sections in a more easily copyable projection, think again.

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Re: thick fins

Post by ric_vidal » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:53 am

dUg wrote:rincon_solid.jpg
Looks well made dUg, pity about the pasty hand holding it :D

I'm still a little surprised someone hasn't included a little design element to their fins - well they have but it was a piss poor construction... more on that another day.

May have to talk to you about that one.

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Re: thick fins

Post by Roy_Stewart » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:40 pm

What design element is that?

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Re: thick fins

Post by dUg » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:11 am

Roy_Stewart wrote:What design element is that?
I'm not sure what you're asking here Roy.

If it's about the image then it indicates 2 slices ( sections ) through a solid model fin, one through the base and one through the length. The vertical cross section is also parabolic, side and center fins use the same curve.

fong a few curve balls on the home front delayed your package, it's on the way. BTW... that base curve will be no use to you unless you understand how it's applied through the length of the fin. ;)

In the meantime, here's something else to get you thinking...

http://www.3d-printers.com.au/

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Re: thick fins

Post by Roy_Stewart » Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:13 am

dUg wrote:
Roy_Stewart wrote:What design element is that?
I'm not sure what you're asking here Roy.

If it's about the image then it indicates 2 slices ( sections ) through a solid model fin, one through the base and one through the length. The vertical cross section is also parabolic, side and center fins use the same curve.



:D
I'm asking what Ric meant by this:

"I'm still a little surprised someone hasn't included a little design element to their fins - well they have but it was a piss poor construction... more on that another day."

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Re: thick fins

Post by Roy_Stewart » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:26 am

fongss wrote:http://www.theinertia.com/surf/thinking ... n_ref_map=[]


:idea:

always refreashing read someone else is into the same thing u are 8)

even if it looks weird :wink:
Sorry but that article is retarded, it suggests that by eliminating fins one can eliminate drag.

It's the same BS we hear constantly from Wegener and others.


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Re: thick fins

Post by ric_vidal » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:23 am

Roy_Stewart wrote: I'm asking what Ric meant by this:

"I'm still a little surprised someone hasn't included a little design element to their fins - well they have but it was a piss poor construction... more on that another day."

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Don't choose to say at the moment, Roy... I think I need to build a set and see what happens. Started a year ago and hit a wall, or a series of walls called overseas surf travel.

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