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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Nick Carroll » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:27 pm

Oh dear.

anyway, surfed in the supersuit today, little rip bowl right, I kinda felt like I was on the wrong board, just not thinking it through!! but man it was so free feeling. I still can't get my head around the price tag but it feels like the future of wetsuits, or what they should be like - thinner, better, simpler cut, just less in the way, if you know what I mean. It's probably not that protective but it's over-warm for Sydney right now. Haven't ripped it yet.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Thud » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:56 pm

What the f&ck is a super suit and did you look like Nadia Comaneci?
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Beanpole » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:42 pm

Loof would go.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Nick Carroll » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:43 pm

Thud wrote:
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What the f&ck is a super suit and did you look like Nadia Comaneci?
you really aren't paying attention here are you.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Thud » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:15 pm

Not really.

Oh wait a 1000 dollar 1 ml suit. Who you testing it for, NASA?

1 ml wave pool wetsuits.

I listened to a Nat Young podcast. He was saying the future is the wave pool however, he may have been talking about environmental impacts.
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Cranked » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:07 pm

Tell me about Torren Martyn
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Thud » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:40 pm

Likes twins. Long ones
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Cranked » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:47 pm

Thanks to Rasta & wiki for this:

In traditional Japanese aesthetics, wabi-sabi (侘寂) is a world view centered on the acceptance of transience and imperfection.[2] The aesthetic is sometimes described as one of beauty that is "imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete".[3] It is a concept derived from the Buddhist teaching of the three marks of existence (三法印 sanbōin), specifically impermanence (無常 mujō), suffering (苦 ku) and emptiness or absence of self-nature (空 kū).

Characteristics of the wabi-sabi aesthetic include asymmetry, roughness, simplicity, economy, austerity, modesty, intimacy, and appreciation of the ingenuous integrity of natural objects and processes.

According to Leonard Koren, wabi-sabi can be described as "the most conspicuous and characteristic feature of traditional Japanese beauty and it occupies roughly the same position in the Japanese pantheon of aesthetic values as do the Greek ideals of beauty and perfection in the far West."[3] Whereas Andrew Juniper notes, "If an object or expression can bring about, within us, a sense of serene melancholy and a spiritual longing, then that object could be said to be wabi-sabi."[4] For Richard Powell, "Wabi-sabi nurtures all that is authentic by acknowledging three simple realities: nothing lasts, nothing is finished, and nothing is perfect."[5]

The words wabi and sabi do not translate easily. Wabi originally referred to the loneliness of living in nature, remote from society; sabi meant "chill", "lean" or "withered". Around the 14th century these meanings began to change, taking on more positive connotations.[3] Wabi now connotes rustic simplicity, freshness or quietness, and can be applied to both natural and human-made objects, or understated elegance. It can also refer to quirks and anomalies arising from the process of construction, which add uniqueness and elegance to the object. Sabi is beauty or serenity that comes with age, when the life of the object and its impermanence are evidenced in its patina and wear, or in any visible repairs.

After centuries of incorporating artistic and Buddhist influences from China, wabi-sabi eventually evolved into a distinctly Japanese ideal. Over time, the meanings of wabi and sabi shifted to become more lighthearted and hopeful. Around 700 years ago, particularly among the Japanese nobility, understanding emptiness and imperfection was honored as tantamount to the first step to satori, or enlightenment. In today's Japan, the meaning of wabi-sabi is often condensed to "wisdom in natural simplicity". In art books, it is typically defined as "flawed beauty".[6]

From an engineering or design point of view, wabi may be interpreted as the imperfect quality of any object, due to inevitable limitations in design and construction/manufacture especially with respect to unpredictable or changing usage conditions; then sabi could be interpreted as the aspect of imperfect reliability, or limited mortality of any object, hence the phonological and etymological connection with the Japanese word sabi, to rust (錆, also pronounced sabi). Although the kanji characters for "rust" is not the same sabi (寂) in wabi-sabi, the original spoken word (pre-kanji, yamato-kotoba) is believed to be one and the same.[7][
A good example of this embodiment may be seen in certain styles of Japanese pottery. In the Japanese tea ceremony, the pottery items used are often rustic and simple-looking, e.g. Hagi ware, with shapes that are not quite symmetrical, and colors or textures that appear to emphasize an unrefined or simple style. In fact, it is up to the knowledge and observational ability of the participant to notice and discern the hidden signs of a truly excellent design or glaze (akin to the appearance of a diamond in the rough). This may be interpreted as a kind of wabi-sabi aesthetic, further confirmed by the way the colour of glazed items is known to change over time as hot water is repeatedly poured into them (sabi) and the fact that tea bowls are often deliberately chipped or nicked at the bottom (wabi), which serves as a kind of signature of the Hagi-yaki style.

Wabi and sabi both suggest sentiments of desolation and solitude. In the Mahayana Buddhist view of the universe, these may be viewed as positive characteristics, representing liberation from a material world and transcendence to a simpler life. Mahayana philosophy itself, however, warns that genuine understanding cannot be achieved through words or language, so accepting wabi-sabi on nonverbal terms may be the most appropriate approach. Simon Brown[9] notes that wabi-sabi describes a means whereby students can learn to live life through the senses and better engage in life as it happens, rather than be caught up in unnecessary thoughts. In this sense wabi-sabi is the material representation of Zen Buddhism. The idea is that being surrounded by natural, changing, unique objects helps us connect to our real world and escape potentially stressful distractions.

In one sense wabi-sabi is a training whereby the student of wabi-sabi learns to find the most basic, natural objects interesting, fascinating and beautiful. Fading autumn leaves would be an example. Wabi-sabi can change our perception of the world to the extent that a chip or crack in a vase makes it more interesting and gives the object greater meditative value. Similarly materials that age such as bare wood, paper and fabric become more interesting as they exhibit changes that can be observed over time.[citation needed]

The wabi and sabi concepts are religious in origin, but actual usage of the words in Japanese is often quite casual because of the syncretic nature of Japanese belief
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Beanpole » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:58 pm

Yes, most products are manufactured with a weakest link. This is actually important as it is engineered to fail n a relatively safe way.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by black duck » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:34 pm

thanks cranked.
I don't know what Beany is talking about.
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Beanpole » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:41 pm

Well, you're an architect rather than an Engineer, Duck. You're just looking at it from an aesthetic point of view. Architects like wabi sabi because it is an excuse when they Fcuk something up.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by black duck » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:44 pm

Beanpole wrote:
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Well, you're an architect rather than an Engineer, Duck. You're just looking at it from an aesthetic point of view. Architects like wabi sabi because it is an excuse when they Fcuk something up.
yep, you're in the right of it Beany, i fcuk shit up all the time.
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Cranked » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:51 pm

serene melancholy
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by The Mighty Sunbird » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:07 pm

They should do that to humans
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by black duck » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:44 pm

Not quite on the same thing but when i did ceramics many years ago one of the things i tried to achieve at college was to recreate a Song dynasty oil spot glaze. it was an assignment where you had to try and recreate a glaze from antiquity. As you would know, the Song dynasty was kind of a fcuk off high period in ceramics history. They achieved much that still hasn't been replicated today. One of the famous glazes from the period was an oil spot glaze that had a blue halo. It hasn't been replicated. It was basically a high iron glaze, fired to around 1380-1400 degrees, to the point where the high level of saturated iron in the glaze bubbles out on the surface and explodes, then settles, leaving silver coloured spots on the surface. It's an oxidation firing, which means the kiln is not starved of oxygen, which is different to a reduction firing, where the kiln is starved of oxygen at high temperature, so the oxygen within the glazes is drawn out of the glaze at a molecular level to create various changes in the finished glaze. No one knows quite how the blue edging on the silver spots was formed however. Some suspect the glazes were made from human bone ash, that they ground up human bones to create the glaze which made the blue halo. A few of the lecturers at college kind of laughed when i said it's what i wanted to do and thought it was too difficult to achieve. It was.
I did achieve an oil spot, something like this pot, but didn't get anywhere near the blue oil spot.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by black duck » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:02 pm

Here is one of the oil spot glazed pots i made back in the day. It's a yellow spot and a bit of a small spot which was a bit shit in that it wasn't well defined like the Song dynasty ceramics spots.

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