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Re: Midlengths

Post by JaM71 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:00 pm

If you're around Bondi they have a demo at sunburnt mess, good review on the 7'2: https://www.sunburntmess.com/post/vouch-mid-vish-review
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:49 pm

Cool ta

Thanks for penning that review. Appreciate and great food for thought.

I’ve read somewhere you need to ride them off the tail to get the benefits
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Moore » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:10 am

Just throwing a positive comment for my long fish too...

I've got a 6'8" Josh Hall 'Piseas', which is a slightly tweaked long fish - main difference is high aspect fins like a twinnie, rather than keels.

Goes great in almost anything waist height to a fair bit overhead. Even goes good in sucky beachies, despite the length and relative width up front.

I used to quite dislike the idea of longer fish about ten years or so ago, but I'm a big believer now. Maybe it's age or something...

Seriously though, it's a board you can throw in the van and be sure it will work in 90% of what you will find when you get to the beach. I'm sure a Vouch in that range will go great too.

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Re: Midlengths

Post by JaM71 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:37 am

Thud wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:49 pm
Cool ta

Thanks for penning that review. Appreciate and great food for thought.

I’ve read somewhere you need to ride them off the tail to get the benefits
Yes, I agree with that. I move forward to trim on occasion but generally speaking my is centred over the keels, the concaves are quite deep and I find the whole set up creates more speed than a single fin so I naturally do more turns.

It took me a few surf's to work out as I was riding rolled bottom single fins which tend to find the natural speed of the wave and are easy to position in the pocket. The long Vish wants to run more, it's faster thus more free. I find it's a better option for shifty beachies.

I still have a longer single but tend to save it for "good" days which have been scarce up here
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Re: Midlengths

Post by JaM71 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:42 am

Lucky you Moore! How did you get your hands on a Josh Hall?

Your 6'8 sounds exactly what I am thinking of, You have made me think maybe I should get futures so I can use keels or Aipas hmmmmm
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Moore » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:07 am

Thud wrote:
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I’ve read somewhere you need to ride them off the tail to get the benefits
Yes that holds true for mine. It's also nice just using that trim to hold speed between turns, rather than constantly going from rail to rail to stop bogging. Up front for speed, then shift back foot for turns. Shortboard body English in a way.

Of course, if you want to go upside down in the bowl like Margo, it will resist, but for most mortals it's a great medium between natural speed and carvability (that's not a word, but you get the gist)

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Moore » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:09 am

JaM71 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:42 am
Lucky you Moore! How did you get your hands on a Josh Hall?

Your 6'8 sounds exactly what I am thinking of, You have made me think maybe I should get futures so I can use keels or Aipas hmmmmm
I was lucky as a friend sold it on to me TBH, but he had it shaped in France which is an annual visit for Josh I think. We are in SW England, so not too far.

How big are the Aipas? They may work.. The Ericson twins from Alkali could be good too

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Cranked » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:27 pm

I surfed my 6'10 Wide Arsed Wombat again today.

Yesterday was a disaster. There were double overhead sets, it seemed to lack paddle power so I was going in late and felt that the wide nose was going to catch so I pulled back on the waves that I could have caught.

I tried to get a few small ones, always a bad idea, and just got monstered by the sets.

So I haven't caught a wave on this board.

Head and a half today and I just tried again. I moved about 5" forward when paddling. That worked fine, suddenly it was much easier to paddle in and there was not a huge chunk of nose to catch.

But it felt badly and dangerously over finned: too hard to turn so I couldn't put the board where it needed to be.

So I went in. I had a 7" centre and two 4.5" sides, I'm gonna go back out with it set up as a thruster or a quad. Not sure which, I'll toss a coin. I'll try it as a 2+1 when conditions are not so critical.

I didn't expect to be surfing these sized waves this late in the season. My other board is a Bonzer Biscuit.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:02 pm

Cranky, I rode a mates FAWB a few times. Same experience as you. I’ve seen footage of Beau Young ride them well so they work, I guess.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Cranked » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:18 pm

Well, it paddles in and takes the drop on head and a half, so that's fine.

I've set it up as a thruster so now I'll be able to see how it goes with blaming the fin setup for any idiosyncrasies.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:30 pm

I rode it as a 2+1. Everyone is different but it was in my top 2 worst boards ridden in the last 10 years. Maybe my expectations were too high. Again total personal view.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by buddy » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:35 pm

Beau Young could make any board look good

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:37 pm

Yeh, lovely style
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Cranked » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:11 pm

Well guys so far it's working fine as a thruster in head and a half high waves (the difference between chalk and cheese). There were a few bigger ones, but I got those on the head.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:32 pm

Cool
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Beanpole » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:58 pm

Thud wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:37 pm
Yeh, lovely style
I like his surfing a bit...but it's in spite of rather than because of his style. Reall don't like those pivoty layback cutbacks. His old man could do a proper cutback.

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Cranked » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:21 am

It's changed quite a bit:

“The Wombat MKII” has all the attributes of the original only better!! Still nice and wide
and realitively thick for catching any wave with ease, the new model has a touch more rocker in the bottom shape to make turning easier, a Diamond tail instead of the traditional large rounded square tail also enhancing the turning capability of a tried and truely tested design."

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:43 am

That’s the one I rode. I hated it. But it’s all personal preference.

I think back and it probably had too much rocker for the volume and the waves I was riding it in. Somewhere like Indo it could go great for medium/smaller waves.
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