Just general surfing stuff

[Nick Carroll]

Why?

There's a really broad range of surfboards available these days thanks to the big steps in manufacturing and the types of surfboard businesses that have evolved in their wake.

This means it has become easy to buy a good surfboard for a lot less and with a much higher degree of certainty than you could 20 years ago.

Shop around even a little bit and you can get hold of two DHDs for less than $500 each.

Shop around more and you can do considerably better than that.

In addition, thanks to the demographic expansions of recent years, there is a much wider range of surfers these days. This very much limits the market for any particular second hand board. For instance, I have a lot of very fantastic used boards right now, but they are useless for any surfer under 15, and most surfers over 15, and certainly all surfers over 50. Legion is clearly suffering from the same issue.

So: the combination of ease of purchase of new boards, and sheer demographics, has hamstrung the second hand board market.

[buddy]

What I meant was, in response to BP, if you've bought it cheap 2nd hand already, shouldn't be too hard to sell cheap at the same price or for a small hit.

I know what you're saying though, Nick.

[Cranked]

I couldn't sell mine for a quarter of what they cost new. And they're good shapes. And they're new condition. And they're nigh on indestructibile.

Thank god they are all too small for me legion otherwise I might have been tempted as I really like his construction

[Legion]

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[Nick Carroll]

So what happened to him?

[Trev]

So what happened to him?

Think the chemicals were affecting his health in a big way. Had to give it away.
Some of his customers on here will probably remember the details more clearly.

[Legion]

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[channels]

Yep, Swellnet did a lengthy article on him and the epoxy issues.

I sold my JD, liked it a lot just didn’t get the optimum conditions for it regularly enough.

[Beerfan]

I went eps/epoxy with my last board, I knew it was quite different to josh’ tech, but thought I’d try it. It’s great in small stuff but head high plus/faster waves it’s a little bit unstable? The jd is light and paddles like a light weight board but handles faster waves so good, smooth as silk. It’s a shame he didn’t make millions.

[Wyre]

Yes he developed epoxy sensitivity. Bit hard given his epoxy construction techniques. He would cover himself head to toe in like a cleanroom suit and full head masks etc with taped joins everywhere and still break out in chronic rashes. And as a result gave it away, something he'd spent a couple of decades doing and at least one decade forging a unique path. His construction techniques were a work of art, the amount of effort that went into what he did vs. Firewire or Sunova or anything and I'm yet to feel the twang from pupe that his boards could give.

Wow that is a sad story Leej. If you weren't on the other side of the country I'd definitely get one of your JD's, he sounds like a master craftsman.

It's funny, I picture myself as a musio well into my 80's but you never know what the fcuk might happen. Arthritis could bite hard, or anything really. Best to make the most of now I guess, same as surfing.

[Wyre]

Yep, Swellnet did a lengthy article on him and the epoxy issues.

I sold my JD, liked it a lot just didn’t get the optimum conditions for it regularly enough.

What are the optimum conditions for them?

[channels]

They were stiff boards, so found that if it was onshore or bumpy, bounced around too much. Offshore or glassy, the boards were epic.

[Legion]

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[Beerfan]

I never found any of them stiff, even the short fat 5”4”. I think they’re great anytime you get a chance to really put pressure on the rails. The keel fish felt amazing in fast beachies, get it to warp speed and the cutbacks were the best I’ve ever done by far, warp speed into the turn, hyper speed out of the turn.

[Trev]

Not sure if any of you guys would remember Ronny Silcock. Goes back to the very early days of Sydney surfing in the 60s.
He's in hospital on the Gold Coast having had 2 strokes following unrelated surgery a week or so ago.

[Nick Carroll]

Weather patterns for the rest of June look like they were drawn by a drunk. More spring than early winter.

[swvic]

Polebean works for BOM?

[steve shearer]

Weather patterns for the rest of June look like they were drawn by a drunk. More spring than early winter.

So spring-like here.
smells, weather patterns, clouds in the sky; everything.