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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by foamy » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:30 pm

Nick, I agree that good real waves are so much better, mainly because of all the wonders of a natural ocean experience. As a retail product, as I always say, I doubt whether an affordable glassy wave can be served up every minute in a confined wave pool space. Residual turbulence is the problem.
In the unlikely event they got it to work, I agree with Steve that it would be enormously dull as a contest venue, but I think it would be good opportunity for an average punter, without local surf spot rights, to catch some nice waves, theoretically.
I have no idea what effect it would have on 'surfing'. Not as much as some fear, I reckon. Still, I think residual turbulence remains the spoiler. It would at best be an adjunct and would never be the real thing.

p.s. Steve, no one is ridiculously arguing it would be as good as Lennox. Should we all move there?

p.p.s. All current wave pools are crap.

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by swvic » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:50 pm

Turbulence, smurbulence. Legit though it is, what about the wind? Good waves and good surfs are so much better for the relative rarity of all factors aligning. When those things come together, it shall never be bettered. And then there's the adventure factor. Excepting perhaps the very first time, that's not available in a pool
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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by godsavetheking » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:14 pm

steve shearer wrote:
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Will intermediates trade blue warm water, brown people serving you drinks and the tropical idyll of the Maldives for a surf park "experience"?
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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by The Mighty Sunbird » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:16 pm

That would be Bangladeshis serving you drinks, to be precise.
And I'm already booked for next year
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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by Nick Carroll » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:13 am

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10 surf trips in 5 years? 40% of surfers?
they probably mean they drove to the surf.

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by batoes » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:22 am

Cranked wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:10 pm
Nick, how long before we get a breakaway surf competition run by surfers?

Please don't tell me never.
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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by Beerfan » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:00 am

The Mighty Sunbird wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:16 pm
That would be Bangladeshis serving you drinks, to be precise.
And I'm already booked for next year
Do you take the mr twinnies?

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by steve shearer » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:18 am

They import Bangladeshis?

Can't be long before one of them goes ham and takes out some kafirs.
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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by The Mighty Sunbird » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:22 am

Beerfan wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:00 am
The Mighty Sunbird wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:16 pm
That would be Bangladeshis serving you drinks, to be precise.
And I'm already booked for next year
Do you take the mr twinnies?
Yeah. Goin off!!
Erase.

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by The Mighty Sunbird » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:24 am

steve shearer wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:18 am
They import Bangladeshis?

Can't be long before one of them goes ham and takes out some kafirs.
Yeah they must get away with paying them even less than the locals. Apparently lots of Maldivians have gone to join Isis, those resorts would be sitting ducks
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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by Nick Carroll » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:58 am

Cranked wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:10 pm
Nick, how long before we get a breakaway surf competition run by surfers?

Please don't tell me never.
Ha the way these WSL changes are going down, you just never know what might happen.

But honestly, mate, most pro surfers couldn't organise their way into a pie shop. They're pro surfers partly because they don't want to do that sort of job.

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by foamy » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:23 am

Given that the WSL is pumping far more money into the tour than the events generate, it doesn't leave the surfers much bargaining power. They can only really say 'thanks' and 'how high?'

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by Rustt » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:17 am

So what happened to the the wave garden that was being built at Essendon airport? Meant to be started this year

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by crabmeat thompson » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:23 am

Rustt wrote:
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So what happened to the the wave garden that was being built at Essendon airport? Meant to be started this year
meant to be finished by Bells!


they just keep drip feeding tightly cropped images onto the internet and talking about it. but not actually doing it.


wave pools are boondoggles, mate. nothing but boondoggles.
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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by alakaboo » Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:30 pm

Nick Carroll wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:58 am
Cranked wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:10 pm
Nick, how long before we get a breakaway surf competition run by surfers?

Please don't tell me never.
Ha the way these WSL changes are going down, you just never know what might happen.

But honestly, mate, most pro surfers couldn't organise their way into a pie shop. They're pro surfers partly because they don't want to do that sort of job.
I've seen Wilko in his local pie shop struggling to order a coffee and this made me laugh out loud.

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by Nick Carroll » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:44 pm

Rustt wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:17 am
So what happened to the the wave garden that was being built at Essendon airport? Meant to be started this year
Melbourne (Tullamarine)

I dug into this a while ago but I'm hanging on to the research for a future story -- it's pretty funny though. chances of that thing being built, hmm I guess there is no such thing as "zero".

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by Nick Carroll » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:48 pm

foamy wrote:
Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:23 am
Given that the WSL is pumping far more money into the tour than the events generate, it doesn't leave the surfers much bargaining power. They can only really say 'thanks' and 'how high?'
If the surfers unite, they get to say what happens. They're not united on this new tour idea, and they don't have a vote on it anyway the way they did with the ASP, in reality they are just WSL employees on a contract, so they'll just shut up and get on with it.

If it doesn't work, the shit will hit the fan at some point.

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Re: Kelly's wave.

Post by Cranked » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:26 pm

Isn't the new format, mobile based on an area, with cut down support, what I've been advocating as the obvious way to go?

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