J-Bay Pro 2017
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I know steve dismissed his surfing as warmed over dogshit but I thought Slater looked pretty good in his Rd 1 heat. Far more exciting than the lightweight and manufactured Igarashi and the pedestrian Wilson, at any rate
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Ever since you first dissed his turn game in 2013 I have come more and more over to your way of thinking God save.
I want Nightclub Dwight dead in his grave I want the nice-nice up in blazes
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I spent most of 2013 hallucinating from sleep deprivation. You might have to remind me
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Erase.
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Ok. I watched a few of the heats. Yes impressive display of high performance surfing. Although can someone let me know if anything comes close to Currens surfing at jbay early 90's so I can tune back in ?
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Check out JJF in round one.
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Mick's first wave of his heat. There's a perfect two turn combo. So fluid.
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Modern audiences would tire pretty quickly of wall-to-wall early 90s Curren. Fine as a heritage love-in, not so much for the main event. Not enough whizz bangs, you see
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I looked at John Johns wave. It was insane. The double handed barrel stall and the 3-fins loose hacking the throat out of the lip. Mind blowing stuff.
I guess for the most part what I miss seeing from the "yesteryears" is simplicity and flow, tremendous power etc but subtlety. Yes yes it probably comes across as a meaningless kooky nostalgic hipster wank, but what ever.
Overall with modern hi-perf surfing, the thing that puts me off is the tic-tacky two-step stuff that happens setting up between each radical turn. Steve said something about it a little while ago, something about undervolumed boards and having to keep the water flowing through the fins. I believe this is what he may have been referring to.
I like surfing to look smooth as silk, above all, like its a flowing consistent unbroken line. Style first essentially. And anything that appears jagged or Tetris just leaves me feeling meh, irrespective of the impressive display of extreme acrobatics.
I guess for the most part what I miss seeing from the "yesteryears" is simplicity and flow, tremendous power etc but subtlety. Yes yes it probably comes across as a meaningless kooky nostalgic hipster wank, but what ever.
Overall with modern hi-perf surfing, the thing that puts me off is the tic-tacky two-step stuff that happens setting up between each radical turn. Steve said something about it a little while ago, something about undervolumed boards and having to keep the water flowing through the fins. I believe this is what he may have been referring to.
I like surfing to look smooth as silk, above all, like its a flowing consistent unbroken line. Style first essentially. And anything that appears jagged or Tetris just leaves me feeling meh, irrespective of the impressive display of extreme acrobatics.
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well said Iggs.
I want Nightclub Dwight dead in his grave I want the nice-nice up in blazes
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Yes. Very well articulated. But the way I see it is that JJ combines style with high performance surfing better than anyone else on the planet.
He also charges serious waves and still looks more at home in big waves than Slater.
When you say yesteryear and the flow. I'd suggest looking at footage of the Stubbies where MP destroyed MR. Back then you got points for the amount of turns you did. There is no way in the world that Rabbit or MP or Kong or Martin Potter or Tom Carroll surfed better than JJ.
The only person who came close was Curren and he still rides short boards and destroyed Jbay a couple of years ago. But I guess he surfs enough to not need a fatter board.
I wonder how often Nick rides a "mid length" ?
He also charges serious waves and still looks more at home in big waves than Slater.
When you say yesteryear and the flow. I'd suggest looking at footage of the Stubbies where MP destroyed MR. Back then you got points for the amount of turns you did. There is no way in the world that Rabbit or MP or Kong or Martin Potter or Tom Carroll surfed better than JJ.
The only person who came close was Curren and he still rides short boards and destroyed Jbay a couple of years ago. But I guess he surfs enough to not need a fatter board.
I wonder how often Nick rides a "mid length" ?
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34 hours.
I got here about an hour after they'd pulled the pin on proceedings. Staying with some Saffers, they were cut up that both wildcards were bundled in less than consistent surf, specially after yesterday.
I kinda thought, well that's usually how it goes for wildcards anyway: a moment of glory in round one, a close second to a star, then the rough end of the pineapple in round two.
It was windy and beginning to rain but I had to surf after all that travel. I asked a couple of people about the water temp, they were all over the shop. "It's really just the wind" etc. So just put on normal rubber and took out a little MC swallow. Ran up to the paddle out spot and looked around and there was Tyler Wright. I told her I thought the women should have an event here too, she said "I'm just gonna keep coming here every year until they give in"
First wave, very first wave, was the fourth wave of a solid 4-5' set that came from nowhere, the only one of the whole surf. The first one broke on our heads, Greg Emslie got the second one from a bit further out, Tyler got the third from a bit wider, and the fourth one was a cracker, just thickened up and moved right in. I took off feeling a bit weird about it, turned and got a half barrel for several seconds, a really intense feeling like good Burleigh but over reef, then half faded out of it, still sorta trying to get my bearings, came off the base and didn't get quite enough face height to outrun the next section. I would have been pissed off if it hadn't been the first feet I'd put on wax for a week. Anyway - settled in, the surf was really 2-4' and stayed that way for three hours or so. They thought about re-starting at 1.45pm but wisely chose not to, it would have sucked.
Poor Jadson cracked his head open on the reef!
This wave is so fcuken bonkers. It's gonna get really really good.
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Poor Jadson
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John John surfs pretty laterally, to be fair. Plenty of pizazz in the second half of the turn, of course, but the first part is usually 9 o'clock. Don't need a board that turns if you're going to surf like that
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Forget mid lengths. Nick better not go doing any tic-tacky two-steps when he's in jbay. Calligraphy speed lines only on those channel bottom step ups.
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Here ya go iggy, if you get some time today. Connor, Jordy, Seabass and Wilko taking on supers on twin keels by local shaper Hugh Thompson.
After a couple waves, Jordy and Connor are amazing. Poor wilko was definitely limited by jos backhand but some nice lines and even tried a forehand layback into backhand buttons
style.
I haven't watched it all yet, or with the commentary to see what their take was yet but pretty cool IMO. http://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthread ... ost2662269
After a couple waves, Jordy and Connor are amazing. Poor wilko was definitely limited by jos backhand but some nice lines and even tried a forehand layback into backhand buttons
style.
I haven't watched it all yet, or with the commentary to see what their take was yet but pretty cool IMO. http://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthread ... ost2662269
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Better lines than most of them draw on their thrusters.
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