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Re: Midlengths

Post by Drailed » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:34 pm

JET01 wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:49 pm
saltman wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:25 pm
JET01 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:12 pm
Took it for a paddle up at the beachie on Saturday. Conditions less than ideal. 2ft @ the alley.
Was nice to get a feel for it. Great size board for me. Love how it paddles. Can’t wait to get it in that 3-4ft range.
You would be almost packing for Sumba by now?
Like the dims of that board - I think I will shape something similar in a bonzer
Soon.
Get ready to be skunked in Sumba, that place is fickle as hell
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Re: Midlengths

Post by batoes » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:49 pm

pirate_agenda wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:21 am
Have trawled a fair bit of this thread, not much on pure longboard replacements.
Looking for something for unshortboardable small days, but needs to be sub 7ft to stay in my car. I'm not interested in surfing it if it's over waist high.
Want to be able to compete with longboarders on the get in early ability, and be able to cruise on shin high waves is basically the only criteria. I normally ride short alternative performance boards from 5'0 to 6'0 but want this one to more about gliding in tiny waves.
Options in my head are:
- oversized mini simmons around 6'0 (anyone ridden a jim phillips jimmons?)
- 7'0 stretch IT style shape with a stinger between the feet and quads
- mid to high 6ft range single fin with flat rocker and plenty of foam

opinions?
Hull?
single fin egg?
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Re: Midlengths

Post by pirate_agenda » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:06 pm

batoes wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:49 pm
pirate_agenda wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:21 am
Have trawled a fair bit of this thread, not much on pure longboard replacements.
Looking for something for unshortboardable small days, but needs to be sub 7ft to stay in my car. I'm not interested in surfing it if it's over waist high.
Want to be able to compete with longboarders on the get in early ability, and be able to cruise on shin high waves is basically the only criteria. I normally ride short alternative performance boards from 5'0 to 6'0 but want this one to more about gliding in tiny waves.
Options in my head are:
- oversized mini simmons around 6'0 (anyone ridden a jim phillips jimmons?)
- 7'0 stretch IT style shape with a stinger between the feet and quads
- mid to high 6ft range single fin with flat rocker and plenty of foam

opinions?
Hull?
single fin egg?
i guess the last option was leaning towards eggy hull

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Re: Midlengths

Post by Beanpole » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:01 pm

So many fish around at the moment.
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Re: Midlengths

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Re: Midlengths

Post by batoes » Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:37 pm

pirate_agenda wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:06 pm
batoes wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:49 pm
pirate_agenda wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:21 am
Have trawled a fair bit of this thread, not much on pure longboard replacements.
Looking for something for unshortboardable small days, but needs to be sub 7ft to stay in my car. I'm not interested in surfing it if it's over waist high.
Want to be able to compete with longboarders on the get in early ability, and be able to cruise on shin high waves is basically the only criteria. I normally ride short alternative performance boards from 5'0 to 6'0 but want this one to more about gliding in tiny waves.
Options in my head are:
- oversized mini simmons around 6'0 (anyone ridden a jim phillips jimmons?)
- 7'0 stretch IT style shape with a stinger between the feet and quads
- mid to high 6ft range single fin with flat rocker and plenty of foam

opinions?
Hull?
single fin egg?
i guess the last option was leaning towards eggy hull
I've had some hulls and some eggs. They both do well in smaller conditions. Longer lined up stuff -hull. Peaky little beach breaks - egg. Greenough fin. Perfect.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Beerfan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:35 pm

Egg !

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Re: Midlengths

Post by batoes » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:09 pm

saltman wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:41 am
What size Greenough for a 7-3 do you think
I do like using side runners but am open to going full single
With side bites 7. Without 8. I'm using an 8 in my 7'6 - amazing.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by tootr » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:57 pm

I use a 6” in my 7.2 Bonzer egg. Plenty of fin and rail to go around.
That said there’s little difference between the 6, 6.5 True Ames fins.

Use a 8 1/2 “ Fibreglas Fin Co Larry Allison flex (very similar to Greenough 4a) in a single fin board.

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Re: Midlengths

Post by batoes » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:41 am

Bonzer fins for bonzers 90% of the time. I think a midlength with rolled vee and pinched rails needs a greenough 4a or liddle flex fin.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by JET01 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:39 pm

Drailed wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:34 pm
JET01 wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:49 pm
saltman wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:25 pm
JET01 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:12 pm
Took it for a paddle up at the beachie on Saturday. Conditions less than ideal. 2ft @ the alley.
Was nice to get a feel for it. Great size board for me. Love how it paddles. Can’t wait to get it in that 3-4ft range.
Been a few times? Would like to hear about your trips

You would be almost packing for Sumba by now?
Like the dims of that board - I think I will shape something similar in a bonzer
Soon.
Get ready to be skunked in Sumba, that place is fickle as hell

Sounds like you’ve been a few times. What time of year did you get skunked?
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Drailed » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:01 pm

I didnt say it wasnt good, I said it was fickle. Hope you get it like but adjust your expectations is all I am saying.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by JET01 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:25 am

saltman wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:04 pm
I will be taking a couple of fishing rods as well for the anticipated ordinary days
I’ll be taking a stubby holder and a yoga mat.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by JET01 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:28 am

saltman wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:53 pm
Drailed wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:34 pm
JET01 wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:49 pm
saltman wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:25 pm
JET01 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:12 pm
Took it for a paddle up at the beachie on Saturday. Conditions less than ideal. 2ft @ the alley.
Was nice to get a feel for it. Great size board for me. Love how it paddles. Can’t wait to get it in that 3-4ft range.
You would be almost packing for Sumba by now?
Like the dims of that board - I think I will shape something similar in a bonzer
Soon.
Get ready to be skunked in Sumba, that place is fickle as hell
Is that one of your own photos? I hear the paddle outs are quite long? That pic definitely confirms it.
Which break is it? The one out the front of the camp?
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Re: Midlengths

Post by Thud » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:59 pm

JET give us a review of the Crossbreed. I found they take a few rides to dial in; with the rocker so flat they are very fast into waves and the rail quite low with that board weight can be quite different to start.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by JET01 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:15 pm

81kg, 177cm. 37years. Average Intermediate surfer.
Board 6’10 x 21 x 2 7/8 41L.

I’m not the best at board reviews to be honest. But for what it’s worth:

I didn’t have too much trouble getting used to it as I’ve spent a fair bit of time on a 7’2 firewire seaxe. I’d call the crossbreed a more performance version of the seaxe geared at bigger waves.

Great rocker, not too flat, but had great speed without having to pump the whole time. Similar rails and foam distribution. It duck dives way easier because of the more pulled in nose and 6L less foam. Felt more grippy and sure footed with the single to double concave and round tail.
Amazing for getting around sections and racing down walls.
Needs more then 3ft to really get going. Tried surfing it one arvo in between tide when it was about 2ft, not a groveller.

I’m not a very aggressive surfer, so didn’t really push it as hard as it could be. Bottom turns felt like butter.
I surfed it mainly from the middle enjoying the trim on some really long rides with the the odd round house.
In the hands of a better surfer this board could be pushed harder vertically and no doubt would be great in a tube.

Would I change anything? Maybe a 6’8 x 21 x 3, make it a little more shortboardy

For me though,
it was a great blend between a nice wide stable platform that paddled well, projected well off the bottom, turned as sharp as my skill would allow.

I felt like i didn’t make a lot lot of mistakes on this board.

Can’t wait to go back and take it over there again.
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Re: Midlengths

Post by ctd » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:40 pm

Outline looks quite like a waterskate, which I seem to recall you used to have - any similarities?

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Re: Midlengths

Post by JET01 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:47 pm

ctd wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:40 pm
Outline looks quite like a waterskate, which I seem to recall you used to have - any similarities?
The waterskate isn’t as refined. Boxier rails. Wider tail, slightly more round nose. I’d prefer the crossbreed in bigger surf.
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