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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:18 am

Natho wrote:An interesting side observation on the Tomo Firewires is the number of them creasing or snapping just based on my own observation. I'm wondering why given they are short relative so wouldn't think this would be any more relevant than a normal board? Is it the concave depth?.

Guy in our boardriders had one. Third surf and creased right through the bottom in 2 foot waves.

Guy up at Boomerang last week on a new one. Snapped clean in half. Man he was pissed.
Nick's little bro recently took one out for a test. Deep crease right through the bottom from a floater.

Spoke to a local repairer who confirmed my observations that these boards are having a much higher hit rate than normal with snapping and creasing. Why is it so?

Possibly all this is just a coincidence ?
I think the Rapdifire technology the first vanguards were using is just unfortunately very weak. From what I read its only EPS/epoxy with two carbon rods near the rail. Its super lightweight and seems very flimsy its that light. I reckon the FST would be a better construction to buy a Firewire in.
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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:27 am

What I see when I see someone surfing a modern planing hull varient, is a lot more flow and speed carried through everything. It looks pretty much the same as high-perf surfing, but they just carry that much more flow and speed from turn to turn. Thats parallel with what I feel when I've surfed some different ones too. I've surfed a JD version, the Vanguard, a Gnech prototype, and a more high-perf Dumpling model by MP.

Give someone like Tom Current one, and he does look like he carries more speed and flow, even with his levels of finesse.

Whether they are valid next step in performance surfboards that supercede the traditional current boards, I don't know. They seem to be better for the air game under certain feet, and the mini wakeboard skateboard thing makes sense to me for airs. The average surfer will get a lot more out of it I reckon. Faster, easier and still responsive. Win-win combination in the right dimensions.
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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by steve shearer » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:12 pm

I don't know CC, with due respect I observed the opposite watching Dan surf at the Point lately, and Stu Kennedy.

the arcs look short and ineffectual to me, they don't carry out to the shoulder for a proper sweeping roundhouse..which has to be the foundation for all good pointbreak surfing.

I think Curren's surfing on one looks horrible. He lost the very attributes which made his surfing so aesthetically pleasing.

In a word they look underpowered, or too easily over-powered and very limited by that ultra short rail line.

I appreciate they might feel very differently to how they look.
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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by el rancho » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:43 pm

here's another planing hull, the psychedelic germ.
skip forward to 1:20 to see it do it's thing properly

https://vimeo.com/62229999

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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by steve shearer » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:04 pm

They're not planing hulls in the sense that Tomo's are planing hulls derived from Simmons concepts...

Those Hayden Shapes Germs, Shred Sleds and Hyptos are derived from early/mid seventies wide point forwards single fins.

Different beast.
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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by Natho » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:55 pm

I think that video to a degree highlights Steve's point about short rail lines. If only he had more rail he would be surfing even better. The video shows the limitations of boards like that in being able to draw out a turn.

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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by el rancho » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:04 pm

steve shearer wrote:They're not planing hulls in the sense that Tomo's are planing hulls derived from Simmons concepts...

Those Hayden Shapes Germs, Shred Sleds and Hyptos are derived from early/mid seventies wide point forwards single fins.

Different beast.
I see, haven't been following the thread properly, as i think tomos surf ugly as sin.
wouldn't mind a go on this thing by andrew kidman though

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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by channels » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:11 pm

^^^

I think those boards are the last ones I would want in that size surf. Those boards, and in that size surf, just smack of trying to be different for the sake of it. Having said that, if hipsters jump on board and struggle, I'm all for it.

Wow...I'm starting to sound like Iggy on a Hypto Krypto rant.

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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by steve shearer » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:12 pm

I've ridden that board in the bottom shot a couple of times when I was helping Andrew shoot Lost in the Ether.

rode very fast and slippery feeling....but that was as a single fin. I think it would go better with the dual keels anchoring the tail.
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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by Beerfan » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:32 pm

I'll bet it had ouvre steve
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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by Cuttlefish » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:33 pm

I've been having a blast surfing my FST nano.
Don't have any trouble with a short rail line on it...riding a 6'2" (LOL).
Had very positive comments on how it's going for me.
Especially gratifying when one of the persons commenting was talking about how it went in sub waist high waves which has always been my achilles heel as a big guy.
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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by el rancho » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:39 pm

steve shearer wrote:I've ridden that board in the bottom shot a couple of times when I was helping Andrew shoot Lost in the Ether.

rode very fast and slippery feeling....but that was as a single fin. I think it would go better with the dual keels anchoring the tail.
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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by pirate_agenda » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:23 pm

steve shearer wrote:I don't know CC, with due respect I observed the opposite watching Dan surf at the Point lately, and Stu Kennedy.

the arcs look short and ineffectual to me, they don't carry out to the shoulder for a proper sweeping roundhouse..which has to be the foundation for all good pointbreak surfing.

I think Curren's surfing on one looks horrible. He lost the very attributes which made his surfing so aesthetically pleasing.

In a word they look underpowered, or too easily over-powered and very limited by that ultra short rail line.

I appreciate they might feel very differently to how they look.
i disagree. i think his surfing looks better on the tomo. theres a clip of him in mexico surfing the tomo and a regular shortboard in the same waves. imo he looks more fluid, smoother and faster on the tomo.

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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by Cuttlefish » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:58 pm

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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by el rancho » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:06 pm


that wave looks almost exactly like snapper at the moment.

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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by tonks » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:35 am

Except that there's no swell...

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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by el rancho » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:17 pm

no. thanks for reminding me though

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Re: Tomo Surfboards

Post by Davros » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:54 pm

Re: Curren, airs get applause, style gets respect. Legend.

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