Take Away dim-SIM

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by Topher » Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:29 pm

2nd Reef wrote:Where do you live Topher? I'm at Manly but head down to Cronulla regularly. After I've ridden the board it'll be easy for me to drop it off down there.
Yeah I'm right near cronulla.

I also head to the gong and beyond regualarly so if it's going down that way I could help out there.

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by pridmore » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:01 pm

looks like its all coming together, but hope you all get to ride it for a few surfs, its obviously not the standard board so best to have a few sessions to suss it out....thanks for the efforts to hand it around.... 8)

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by batoes » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:13 pm

Beerfan and i will be keen to take it off your hands once it gets to the Illawarra! Looking forward to comparing it to the 5'1 dim-sim. Sounds greedy doesn't it? :oops:
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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by Beerfan » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:00 am

Yeah, i'll be keen for sure. I may even be persuaded to surf a nearby hollow river mouth beachy i haven't surfed for a long time..... :D
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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by Nick Carroll » Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:29 am

Right, surfed the dim-sim four times in beachbreak conditions of varying quality.

I'm 77kg, add two kilos of wetsuit.

For 5'2" the board has an enormous amount of volume and this, not the length, dominated my experience of riding it. Easy to paddle, easy to catch waves, funny to sit on because it's pretty corky. Saltman warned me he didn't think it was a groveller but to me it felt easy to cruise in 2' waves down the line or in a more pockety situation, though it didn't glide in the manner of a Fish and didn't like holding a longer line through a harder weighted turn, preferring to work off the back 2' and off whichever fin happened to be the mot juste. Sort of a pivoty feel in that vein.

That said it had no trouble handling slightly larger waves up to 4' (OK given that other thread about wave size, that means a bit overhead) though you had to be careful about how much rail you tried to use (see bottom paragraph)

It gained speed and lifted off the back end concave just fine when running down the line and showed no backside disadvantage, again not a Fishy feel there, that was a pleasant surprise.

Things about this board reminded me of similarly volumed boards of the late 1970s, it's most likely just my own embedded surfing memory but the turn timing and wave catching felt very much like boards of that time -- ie don't push it, let it find its way and place your turns rather than slash or carve 'em.

I had a distinct issue with the front end water entry, there is a dissonance in how the nose hull/vee entry comes back into the concave in relation to the rail line and this reveals itself as a catch point some 12"-18" back where the board gags and loses speed. I noticed almost exactly the same thing in the last board Mark made me, just in a different context, and it needs work in future designs -- 5'2", you want to be able to use the entire board to turn and accelerate, not just the back 2'. MP I hesitate to suggest this but what the hell, maybe worth trying the APS3000 or other cutter, the design software seems to have been really good at helping guys iron out those sorts of bumps in trickily blended bottom shapes which might not be immediately obvious to the eye.

passing on to the Caveman this arv, he should get some OK waves in the coming days it would seem.

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by Yuke Hunt » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:46 am

Nick Carroll wrote: I had a distinct issue with the front end water entry, there is a dissonance in how the nose hull/vee entry comes back into the concave in relation to the rail line and this reveals itself as a catch point some 12"-18" back where the board gags and loses speed. I noticed almost exactly the same thing in the last board Mark made me, just in a different context, and it needs work in future designs -- 5'2", you want to be able to use the entire board to turn and accelerate, not just the back 2'. MP I hesitate to suggest this but what the hell, maybe worth trying the APS3000 or other cutter, the design software seems to have been really good at helping guys iron out those sorts of bumps in trickily blended bottom shapes which might not be immediately obvious to the eye.
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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by pridmore » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:07 pm

intersting and will take it all on board but have not had any experiences like that with my board, but everyone has their thoughts and NC is extremely experienced so I'll take it all onboard for sure..they are different little shapes and arent really meant to be surfed like a HPS thruser so they difference is huge but the varied feedback is very interesting to me... and I agree that the hullish-rolled vee entries are a different feel, but the more recent versions have a bit less rocker curve, fins slightly bigger and rails have been refined out and bit more roll to the decks....so there's an ongoing improvement process and this feedback is all a part of it. I am not gunna sit here and say they are the best, they are perfect, coz any surfer who knows boards and design, would know that there's always small changes and improvements to be made, especially when dealing with such a diverse bunch of surfers and conditions...I am just trying to make them a real fun board that gets people stoked on riding something different and to be able to draw some fun and different lines....Thanks for the honesty NC.... 8)

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:14 pm

I have the traveler now. It looks like a fun little slab :)

I'll try to get 2-3 surfs on it this week and report back. Matt (a mate of mine) is going to have it for a couple of surfs after me. He lives in Maroubra.
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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by jimmy » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:11 pm

Cpt.Caveman wrote:I have the traveler now. It looks like a fun little slab :)

I'll try to get 2-3 surfs on it this week and report back. Matt (a mate of mine) is going to have it for a couple of surfs after me. He lives in Maroubra.
Any chance of it getting it's way to Bondi/Bronte? I wouldn't mind a go as I'm sure Skip would.. Maybe PP and BB as well? I head down to the Coal coast every weekend so wouldn't be a drama getting it there..

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by 2nd Reef » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:24 pm

Cpt.Caveman wrote:I have the traveler now. It looks like a fun little slab :)

I'll try to get 2-3 surfs on it this week and report back. Matt (a mate of mine) is going to have it for a couple of surfs after me. He lives in Maroubra.
Any chance of a surf before it leaves the Northern Beaches?

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by No Pants Lance » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:34 pm

Yep. Caveman if you're anywhere amongst the eastern subs beaches let us know. I'd be up for a spin on it. I'm hoping to get wet this week. can manage most days. Missed last week's minor epic little setup at sth bondi. Doubt it'll re- present this week. But who knows.

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by pridmore » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:47 pm

Captn, please get it to 2nd reef after you..Topher has been showing interest for quite a while so he's next..great to see a few others keen for a paddle, we'll do our best to get it to all who are keen, just have to work it out..... 8)

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:08 am

Done, 2nd reef it is. I'll have a few surfs this week then pass it over to you hopefully next week. I'm about to head out to Curly today, in about 30mins to be exact :)
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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:37 pm

Had my first surf on it today in 2ft little shifty beach waves. I love the free speed feeling of a twin-fin, a pure fun experience. As always with mini-simmons the first wave made me just stand there and smile, pure speeed. haha :)

I'll surf it a few more times to get a little more used to it then I'll write an opinion.
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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by 2nd Reef » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:52 pm

You get my PM with contact deets, Caveman?

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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by pridmore » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:20 pm

Cpt.Caveman wrote:Had my first surf on it today in 2ft little shifty beach waves. I love the free speed feeling of a twin-fin, a pure fun experience. As always with mini-simmons the first wave made me just stand there and smile, pure speeed. haha :)

I'll surf it a few more times to get a little more used to it then I'll write an opinion.
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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:02 pm

2nd Reef wrote:You get my PM with contact deets, Caveman?
No I didn't mate. I just checked and its not full, so I don't know why I didn't receive it...
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Re: Take Away dim-SIM

Post by 2nd Reef » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:11 pm

Just sent it again.

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