Sliding Out On Turns

[g_u_m_b_y]

Lately i have been having Trouble with my backhand turns, coz i have been sliding out too much...even on the little ones i have been sliding? This can help on spins off the turns (turn which develops into a spin), but even on little turns, ive been sliding out.....do i just need to learn how to control my turn power???

I shortboard by the way

[g_u_m_b_y]

Come on....At least ONE of you hotshots could reply

[el gringo rattis]

sliding out bottom turning?? hitting the lip???
put some more weight on your back foot?, look where you want to go, bent those knees stingbeen!!
PRACTICE

[bookster]

I second that, if you are coming off the bottom you want to be directing a bit o' weight on the back foot to bury the inside edge...

[fong]

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[g_u_m_b_y]

nah, its not that, its like tooo much power or something...
on hitting the lip btw

[eshya]

What sort of fins are you using?
Dont use G3000 fins if u are over 80kg

[bc]

Watch some footage of yourself
-you should see the problem straight away.

Just gotta find yourself a girl whos willing to stand on the beach with a handicam for 2 hours

[fong]

Just gotta find yourself a girl whos willing to stand on the beach with a handicam for 2 hours

than ask her to marry u.......repeatedly

[g_u_m_b_y]

Just gotta find yourself a girl whos willing to stand on the beach with a handicam for 2 hours

than ask her to marry u.......repeatedly

ha h ah a...im only 14 but...
i think its moreto do with pushing too hard

[Nick Carroll]

nah, its not that, its like tooo much power or something...
on hitting the lip btw

Young gumby it's not too much power. How do you imagine Pancho Sullivan, 32 year old Hawaiian weighing 90 kilos, manages these turns without spinning out.

You're only a micro grommet. There's a long way to go here. You're gonna have to work on weight distribution through the turn. Yes this surfing caper is F**kin HARDER than they told ya.

Weight distribution in surfing turns is a kissing cousin to weighting snowboard turns. In both, the best turns begin with weight in one area, finish with the weight smoothly transferred to another area.

Most backhand turns are best initiated from the mid-rail, then transferred to the back end of the rail. A bit like cutting butter with a knife. Imagine sinking the middle of the knife into the butter, then shifting the pressure to the part of the blade that's closer to the handle.

You're starting the turn fine, but failing to shift back through the turn. Thus later in the turn, your fins are lifting out and it all turns to s**t.

Try this: begin the turn, then as it happens, roll back onto the back foot heel. The turn shortens as it progresses, yet at the finish your weight is back and you're ready then to begin the logical followup: a frontside toe-weighted turn.

This is easier accomplished by a heavier weighted human, which is why most backside masters are bigger guys (ie AI, Jamie O'Brien).

Have a think about this in terms of the butter knife analogy. How can you set a rail, then shift your weight along the rail?

Watch vids of Pancho, Parko, Kelly (duh) and others for visual hints on this one.

[Lucky Al]

'Kissing cousins' sounds sweet! Sure wish I'd had one: my cousins couple of boys just beat the shit out of each other every Christmas, and their older sister played footy all year round. Cutting-butter stuff's nice, too. Makes me want to go out right now and bury a rail.

[g_u_m_b_y]

nah, its not that, its like tooo much power or something...
on hitting the lip btw

Young gumby it's not too much power. How do you imagine Pancho Sullivan, 32 year old Hawaiian weighing 90 kilos, manages these turns without spinning out.

You're only a micro grommet. There's a long way to go here. You're gonna have to work on weight distribution through the turn. Yes this surfing caper is F**kin HARDER than they told ya.

Weight distribution in surfing turns is a kissing cousin to weighting snowboard turns. In both, the best turns begin with weight in one area, finish with the weight smoothly transferred to another area.

Most backhand turns are best initiated from the mid-rail, then transferred to the back end of the rail. A bit like cutting butter with a knife. Imagine sinking the middle of the knife into the butter, then shifting the pressure to the part of the blade that's closer to the handle.

You're starting the turn fine, but failing to shift back through the turn. Thus later in the turn, your fins are lifting out and it all turns to s**t.

Try this: begin the turn, then as it happens, roll back onto the back foot heel. The turn shortens as it progresses, yet at the finish your weight is back and you're ready then to begin the logical followup: a frontside toe-weighted turn.

This is easier accomplished by a heavier weighted human, which is why most backside masters are bigger guys (ie AI, Jamie O'Brien).

Have a think about this in terms of the butter knife analogy. How can you set a rail, then shift your weight along the rail?

Watch vids of Pancho, Parko, Kelly (duh) and others for visual hints on this one.

Thanks Nick, that was heplful.....dvds, here i come

[Clif]

is your cousin hot Al? haha

does she like butter?

Pools were fun yesterday by the way.

[Lucky Al]

For a second-rower... she has a kind heart. Haven't seen her since her footy-playing days ended, so don't know whether the weight transfer was smooth or not. But let's leave her out of this, and you try to keep Nick's butter-knife analogy in mind through your turns off the pools down there.

[barstardos]

Sliding out on turns - dont do it!!
It is giving to weakness, turning to the dark side!
Only gutsliders would think that sliding out on turns is good.
remember, real surfing is based on full rail turns in critical part of the wave!!

[fong]

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[ric_vidal]

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wouldn’t want to pop a tit out hang on, yes we would