V. small wave grovellers

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by Nick Carroll » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:02 pm

Yeah that's it. It's a crazy feeling on a racing ski though - like instead of a rail, you've gotta try to catch the centre of the hull curve under the nose, it's what snaps the tail around.

Like it's not moving then whang! it just leaps around.

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:02 pm

Sounds like great fun NC, but I personally would be a risk to public safety trying that! :)

Let alone trying to cart my ski to the beach with in-car roof straps with a little city car that only fits my sub 6' shorties :)
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Post by pridmore » Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:48 pm

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this is my fave groveller, its 5'6" x 22" x 2 3/4", 40 ltrs which is way more than I need ( at 78kg's ), but I can catch anything and this thing seriously flies...called it' the Dung Beetle' coz it eats up the shit waves.....

that's it on far left...

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by crabmeat thompson » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:41 pm

lol ... I hate being bi polar, it's awesome.

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by pirate_agenda » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:21 am

i like the look of the dung beetle, but making fun of mental health is pretty average form.

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by pridmore » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:44 am

bit of light-hearted fun, thats all...believe me i know several people, some extremely close to me that have mental health issues so it aint meant to hurt anybody

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by pirate_agenda » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:15 am

i have no doubt the intent is light hearted and no offence intended, but you wouldn't go and write funny messages about breast cancer etc on your board would you? one of the major social stigma's surrounding mental health is that the symptoms can be seen as humourous.

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by pridmore » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:28 am

gee it didnt take long for the crap to start, been back on RS for 3 days, ....nuthin bad was intended...I have a good friend with bipolar and he laughed at it....now back to the surfboards

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by brukuns » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:46 am

Do you guys know the DHD Double Shot? Seems to be just what you guys are discussing... a high performance groveler.

Look at the descriptions and dims:

The double shot was created due to the increasing demand for a board that enables surfers to shred in smaller, sloppier conditions and have fun doing it. The wider nose and tail, combined with a super fast, flat rocker allows you to charge through dead sections and maintain drive in waves lacking power.

Adding to the Double Shot’s arsenal is a single to deep double concave with a slight vee out the tail. This concave design, which is found in many of DH’s small wave models, creates the increased drive and smoother rail to rail transitions needed to put life into small gutless waves. The medium boxy rail also compliments this model’s ability to perform in smaller waves, allowing forgiveness and creating versatility in all conditions.

Sized down 3 to 5 inches shorter than normal shortboard, the Double Shot will get you turning a tighter arc, drawing sharper lines, and charging through sections you never thought possible.

5'10 x 20 3/4 x 2 3/4 - 34.38 LT

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I´m between this board and the Chubby Chedda... still figuring out how much paddle power I am losing if I go for the Chubby Chedda.

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by Beerfan » Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:31 am

You don't like fish but are thinking of a sub 6' board that's 20 3/4 wide and 2 3/4 thick??. Just get a fish mate.


How much are you being paid to promote dhd surfboards?

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by brukuns » Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:49 am

Fish are all about gliding... I'm not into that. Totally different experience.

And as I already explaine on another topic, I'm focusing on DHDs because my local shaper works with their shapes.. he works with a few other brands, but nothing compared to DHD.

All I'm asking is that someone analyzes the board characteristics, and if by any chance someone already rode the board and would care share the experience, all the better.

If I was trying to sell DHDs I would just say I rode them and they're awesome, not ask for someone's opinion.

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:53 am

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This is my currentl v. small wave groveller that I picked up cheap as after getting sick to death of Sydney summer crowds. Foamy too, so I can surf in the flags in the summer in the best peak of the beach.

Paddles in like a dream and incredible fun. Bees dick of a rocker, so it goes like clappers. Forget turning, its all about sliding and avoiding certain catastrophe for as long as possible with this puppy.

Nowhere near as user friendly is my semi-finless MORE Fish-Finger. You can't rail turn the Albacore as easily as you can the Fish-Finger, but for the right type of waves (in the flags with noone out) its gold.
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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by pirate_agenda » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:44 pm

brukuns wrote:Do you guys know the DHD Double Shot? Seems to be just what you guys are discussing... a high performance groveler.

Look at the descriptions and dims:

The double shot was created due to the increasing demand for a board that enables surfers to shred in smaller, sloppier conditions and have fun doing it. The wider nose and tail, combined with a super fast, flat rocker allows you to charge through dead sections and maintain drive in waves lacking power.

Adding to the Double Shot’s arsenal is a single to deep double concave with a slight vee out the tail. This concave design, which is found in many of DH’s small wave models, creates the increased drive and smoother rail to rail transitions needed to put life into small gutless waves. The medium boxy rail also compliments this model’s ability to perform in smaller waves, allowing forgiveness and creating versatility in all conditions.

Sized down 3 to 5 inches shorter than normal shortboard, the Double Shot will get you turning a tighter arc, drawing sharper lines, and charging through sections you never thought possible.

5'10 x 20 3/4 x 2 3/4 - 34.38 LT

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I´m between this board and the Chubby Chedda... still figuring out how much paddle power I am losing if I go for the Chubby Chedda.
too long for a micro groveller ... chop 6 inches off the nose, re blend it to almost round/stub style, and maybe a bit more width in the tail and it would work better in tiny waves imo.

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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:57 pm

pirate_agenda wrote: too long for a micro groveller ... chop 6 inches off the nose, re blend it to almost round/stub style, and maybe a bit more width in the tail and it would work better in tiny waves imo.
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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by JaM71 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:13 pm

Cpt.Caveman wrote:Image

This is my currentl v. small wave groveller that I picked up cheap as after getting sick to death of Sydney summer crowds. Foamy too, so I can surf in the flags in the summer in the best peak of the beach.

Paddles in like a dream and incredible fun. Bees dick of a rocker, so it goes like clappers. Forget turning, its all about sliding and avoiding certain catastrophe for as long as possible with this puppy.

Nowhere near as user friendly is my semi-finless MORE Fish-Finger. You can't rail turn the Albacore as easily as you can the Fish-Finger, but for the right type of waves (in the flags with noone out) its gold.
Yeah I ve got one of these as well.....heaps of fun in small clean waves. Your fish finger sounds interesting captain! Do u ride that the same length as a normal board?
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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:15 am

I'll pop some photos of the Fish Finger up later. In the meantime you can check it out on Pridmores website for MORE surfboards.

Its high volume to surf small waves really easily. Super straight planshape with a round nose and wide square tail. A super deep single and tiny little keels control it just enough so you can find a trim but it will drift and slide like an alaia.

Its around 5'10" x 20" x 2 3/4". I normally ride snub nose boards, so my normal boards are around 5'5" to 5'9" when I'm 5'11" myself. I just shaped myself a 6'4" fully finless board that works wonders, but to get it to hold well I added bladey rails and channels which I think don't do it any favors for small waves.
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Re: V. small wave grovellers

Post by LPJ » Wed Jul 02, 2014 2:35 pm

JaM71 wrote:I ve ridden a couple of different 5" to 5"4 grovel specialist boards & mini sims. I had most fun on them in bigger, fatter open faced waves not 1-2ft slop.

Sure, a 5ft board works for some but you have to be on your game, no sore back, stiff shoulder, slop pop up etc. I am 73kg & can easily paddle a 5ft sweet potato but would I be able to catch my share of waves on a crowded beachie or point?

When the tide drops out & it starts pitching you can't get in early because a) you don't have the length & b) the board is too thick so you take off in the pitching lip.

My solution was to stick to my normal length but go a bit wider and thinner. Planning area but still able to get in early. I go with a quad set up.

Hope this helps
In addition to this JaM, how do you think length vs the need to shift feet plays off? i.e. when in good form, I feel more comfortable on shorter boards. I think it's because it reminds me of landing an ollie on a skateboard, and I feel I can adjust to the wave much more easily cos I don't waste precious time and energy shifting feet and transferring weight...?

Apart from paddle strength which doesn't change too much for me (when I'm unfit, I can still force myself to paddle hard for a short time) take offs are all a mind game, and I've been letting go more lately if I'm just not switched on. Sometimes that helps relax and reset too...

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