what's your take on what'd work for this??

[PeepeelaPew]

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['llo-and Behold]

Too long and its not gonna get in the pocket of a 3'er, eh?
Yesty, I surfed a mate's 6'3". Thought it'd be a pig but ripped up these gutless 3'ers with ease. Would conceivably handle overhead, too. 2.5" thick. Don't remember the width, but wide point was tailside. Single -double concave. Medium rocker. No, actually, flattish with a bit of nose kick. Bat tail.Cole custom

['llo-and Behold]

'twas a fwuster, too.

[steve shearer]

For post work daylight savings slop or real waves?

Forget about a 6'5".
Thats a horrible in between length unless your in Indo.

Get fitter, buy Carroll's book and go a 6'2 or 6'3".

Jordy Smith model JS's looked pretty on the money.

[Natho]

Iggs,

It's kinda the million dollar question. A board that does everything well. I guess that's the board we all keep searching for.

As an example a board that surfs tight in the pocket is going to have more bottom curve in general. But that's going to be at the expense of speed out on the flats.

As far as fin set ups, well yes a tri is probably going to be a better bet for tight in the pocket surfing. If you want speed out on the flats, then a quad is going to do that very well (horses for courses).

I guess what you are after is an all rounder that does everything as well as possible.

I would suggest talking with a good shaper re an all round performance board. Nearly all shapers will have a model that is designed for that and yes it will most probably be a tri in that instance.

One model that works damn well for me as an all rounder is Simon's XFC model. I find it does nearly everything very well in most conditions. But that's what works for me, and by no means will is suit everyone.

Anyway that's my two cents worth and only my own opinion.

Now considering your a Frkn Tick, I would suggest either a SUP, or one of those Roy Stewart wooden specials.

[Surfin Turf]

sounds similar to my present everydayer ... but a tad thicker ... you have a few kg's on me ...

it's probably well known that I love that style of board though ... with a simple fin change it is very adaptable to a range of conditions ... I get that most people change styles of boards for certain wave conditions but I stick with essentially very similar boards with different length (obviously) and different rail and concave configurations ... this way I can also use a small range of fins too as smaller wave fins for one board also work in the bigger board beacause I can rely on the rail and tail set up for speed and holding ability ... I like this system becasue I stay used to the board type even though the wave conditions change and I get my enjoyment that way ...

that's why I think that it would be a good choice ...

the fins pictured are not fcs but but fit fcs and are a half price dion version of a top shelf fcs ... they would probably suit what you are describing for a more carving style as they are pretty stiff ... I use those for larger or faster waves (they went great in Fiji recently ) but in smaller surf they provide good momentum as they are very drivey and with your power and weight (not offending ... ) you would probably find them good for carving turns ... they are fairly rakey but are not big so the rake provides good drive and the size is more adaptable to pushing the board around ...

anyway's my too bob's worth ... a good choice I reckon and I'm saying that from the perspective of what I know of you not what I personally like too ... also it sits perfectly in RQ's zone ...

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[Surfin Turf]

i note a lot of similarities between my surfing and yours

you f'ckin shred ...

[oldman]

also it sits perfectly in RQ's zone ...

yeeeeeeppppp...
(wasn't gonna elude to that, but you've caught me out)

Hope my order gets in before yours Iggs.

S&T, i've seen footage of you're surfing, and with no offense to you ( )i note a lot of similarities between my surfing and yours (low centre of gravity, rounded out approach, knuckles dragging through the water even in full stand-up height, excessive neck and back hair, tendency to growl regularly, inability to see any other surfer out there who has got the wave before you did, positively sunny disposition )

Fixed

Ahh, I could go on, and may well do at a later stage.

[Surfin Turf]

S&T, i've seen footage of you're surfing, and with no offense to you ( )i note a lot of similarities between my surfing and yours (low centre of gravity, rounded out approach, knuckles dragging through the water even in full stand-up height, excessive neck and back hair, tendency to growl regularly, masterbating and throwing sh!t at people, eating bananas, picking nits off friends and eating them, inability to see any other surfer out there who has got the wave before you did, positively sunny disposition coupled with an intense hate for everyone ...

[black duck]

>for hollow and slightly fatter waves

Agree with earlier comments -
What you want is the perfect board.

Plenty of boards out there to fill those criteria but none will be "perfect". Tricky brief because the hollow v's fat criteria is difficult and directly influences the amount of rocker. You say low/medium entry rocker, then flat through the middle and good tail lift which is the classic compromise rocker to try and get the best of both worlds, but surfing in the pocket will demand more rocker which will not be an advantage on the flats.
The type of rocker is probably the main factor affecting your board choice given it sounds like you already really know what you're after.

sxe2 ?

Maybe a Rusty T2 ?(think they're called terminator model now). 6'4" is all you need in length. Got one, goes good (for me). Squash tail. Good tail lift. Good rocker throughout, meets your brief. Good distribution of foam, well hidden, "neutral" even foil. Great for slightly bigger guys. I am roughly same height and weight as you.

Far as fins go - can of worms, very personal. On your own there. Agree mediums though.

How long since you've been to a board shop and kicked a few tyres? Some good sticks around at the moment imo. Always a good way to compare and contrast and help refine your needs in a real sense. Due to the subtle differences in performance board designs, i find it always helps to get 2 or 3 boards on a carpet bench to really note the variation between them.

Other than that, a 7S superfish would be the go

[huie]

slowly working on that for those poor old bastards haa''

[huie]

hard to put a decent pic on here

[pridmore]

well if you wanna surf tight in the pocket, you are gunna need to go shorter than 6'5 , and you got that covered...but then you want it to surf well in the flats too, so you'll need a bit of area and flatter rocker....but the pocket surfing requires more rocker....so you are farrkkedd , it cant be done, sorry..
Nah, have to aim for that middle ground, the happy medium, the holy grail of surfboards...
Loose and fast, light and strong... I would go even shorter, 6'2" x 19 1/2" x 2 5/8" why ?, coz to surf a board in the pocket in smaller waves, you need the board to fit in there and just look at the size of the top surfers boards these days, they are all quite short and it is so they can do alot of turns in critical parts of the waves, by goin shorter you gunna need to increase volume slightly, doesnt mean it has to be chunky, disperse the foam well....rocker is critical IMO, nice even gradual curves, probably the most important thing in this board is the correct rocker...too much tail rocker will stop it from being carvy as you wanted but too littl and you wont get that turning radius for the vertical and pocket surfing...but with goin shorter you can over power a slightly flatter rocker ...
got my thoughts on bottom contours but it may sound like a sales pitch so wont go there....

[ric_vidal]

[Grooter]

Then add some of this



start wearing your pants like this



and you'll be RIPPPIN' MATE!!!!!

[channels]

I've got to ask the question Iggy but can you really notice the difference between 2 1/2 and 2 9/16?

[steve shearer]

you've got everything so dialed and prescriptive, why not just explain your requirements to a shaper and let em create something.
Show 'em some video of yourself surfing and how you want to surf .....then let them create.

[dragon]

that lovely piece of work from Huie is now mine, can let you know how it goes when there is swell.
I'm a little bit older and a couple kegs lighter that you and what you started the thread with is pretty much what i told Huie.