FCS Quads - What are you using ?

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by tonka79 » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:42 am

alakaboo wrote: was talking to someone who uses the longboard sidebites in the rear slots and those old fcs curvy sides in the front. think the sidebites are smaller than the sf4 rears, but they are single foiled. they don't use anything else now.
I've been using G-Ls for over a year now and found that they work great for me (though I am a lighter surfer at around 63kgs). I've thought about getting trying some other rears but just about all the ones I've seen are bigger and I feel absolutely no need to go bigger. I get plenty of drive and hold with my current setup. As someone said above, with four fins in the water you want to go smaller with your fins. It's a shame FCS and FF don't make smaller versions of their existing rear fins.

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by still here » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:26 am

Quads = good way to cut open your ankle if you havent been riding them for a while .
2 weeks festering wound since borrowing a quad . :evil:

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by alakaboo » Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:42 am

Wow, someone quoted me on something to do with surfing.

I tried the GL sidebites in a rail-centric board and liked them (Stretch SF4) but in a more stringer-centric board I wasn't totally digging them.
I might try and grab a photo later of what I settled on.
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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Davros » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:24 pm

GXQs great if you like a skatey feeling.

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by alakaboo » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:28 pm

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alakaboo wrote: ... I tried the GL sidebites in a rail-centric board and liked them (Stretch SF4) but in a more stringer-centric board I wasn't totally digging them.
How similar are the designs of the two boards? Other than stringer differences, how similar is the rocker, bottom contours, foil, fin placements, etc?
Similar size, shape, countours, rocker and foil.

This is the Stretch, I felt it was overfinned with the SF4 set and just wanted to go straight and fast, stay high on a wall. The GLs turned it into a turbo twinny skateboard
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This is the other board to show placement, with some funky fins.
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I use basically this set in it now (different board)
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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by tootr » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:42 am

i found a pair of FCS TF 2 carbon lites on fleabay. Don't think they make these anymore.?!?

A little more rake and a little less base than the MR twins. These have transformed a good little board into a bloody brilliant one......

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Cuttlefish » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:14 pm

Think they are GTF-1 off the top of my head.
Dis-continued but pop up every so often.
Have a set and much prefer them over the MR tfx.
Believe they were prone to snapping at the tabs.
Another good set are the True ames CI twin which you can have sent over from the US for $20 postage.
Better release off the top than the MR's.
Both work great as front fins in wide taile quads if you're a big unit.
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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by damo666 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:05 am

So, just a quick follow up on this one - I got my hand on a FCS 'V2' quad set for my board and stuck these in to replace the M5/GX combo the board came with. The guy in the shop seemed to think these are a refinement on the 2.1 Kelly's?

The first thing I noticed was a quite a large reduction in paddle-in speed, actually, a MASSIVE difference, more than I would have thought a simple fin swap would make!!

Over a few sessions I found I was missing lots of waves that would have been a breeze previously. Whilst they did offer noticably more drive and stability when I managed to get into some larger set waves, which was great, as I only use this board as a small wave board I found it pretty frustrating (its a Takayama Scorpion).

I'm going to try using the V2 front with the original GX rears, but am thinking there may be a cheap V2 set on Ebay soon....

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Cpt.Caveman » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:28 am

My guess would be that you are noticing what happens when you decrease fin area. Fins contribute to forward thrust while paddling, just take them out and see what happens to your paddling.

Its always a balance between drive and responsiveness when you're talking fin area. If you want the same proportionate fin area, rather than using G5/GX as you usuall do, try V2/G1000 for example. If you do down with the fronts, go up a little with the rears.
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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Slowman » Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:31 am

DV8 wrote:So I'm wanting my quad to behave closer to a tri than a twin so to speak in that I'd still like some pivot in the pocket and I understand fin placement is crucial for this , but is the inside foiled fins or old standard flat inside going to affect this at all ?

Anyone tried rusty FCS Quad set ?
From reading up seems like say M5 with G-1000's is a popular combo anyone experience this ?
Yep it is my favourite quad set. I tweak it by adding my own home made knubster or even a Darc Drive to get more of a pivotal feel. I have found the KR JP-Q4 also very good too. The new FCS2 Large Performer with medium Reactor quad rears (carbons) is OK too but loses a little drive...I chose them because they looked a bit like R2s dimensions. I will try the L Performer rear quads as well to see if it adds the drive back.
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Well not really, but the romance is over I think. I still ride it but I think the best combination is something close to what I started with near the beginning. FG-7s at the front and GXs at the rear. I had 2 quads both Stretch F4s one 6'5" and the other 6'1". Originally the 6'5" came with SF4 fins and they were not so good so I switched to the FG-7 and GX set up and finally got some GX-Qs for the rear, which softened the transition from rail to rail, and eventually used PC3s for the front. These fins were just too small for me and it killed the drive. If you ever water skied and you get someone that drives the boat and pulls you out of the water and doesn't keep the power going, you get up with a surge, accelerate and then glide and slow down and almost stop. That is how it bottom turned. So I put the FG-7s back in the front and now the drive has returned and the board goes all right again but I was almost about to sell it as I was always having a better surf on my thruster (6'5" Afterburner).

The weird thing is with the FG-7s I reckon it even paddles faster. The 6'1" has more volume in it than my 6'5" afterburner and I just couldn't figure out why it seemed to feel so dead both trying to paddle it onto waves and when trying to get it to accelerate. Whatever it is it seems these fins really suit the board and me on it. At 6'1" and around 88kg I'm no lightweight so I need a bit of fin to drive off.

I've wondered what a pair of TC redlines would be like at the front. Has anyone tried a set of TC Aqualines?
Ha ha, since about 2012 I've ridden mostly quads with a small fifth fin. It seems to add more control and a bit more drive and you can get the board going vertical in tighter turns. The 5th fin doesn't always work, some boards it just seems to stiffen it up too much. I still really like the Rusty R2 quad set and they seem to go pretty good in most boards I ride.

I have a bunch of Firewires that I have them in; 6'0 Hellfire (diamond), 6'0 Spitfire (diamond), 6'0 Tomo V4. I have a 6'5 Hellrazor (square tail) where I use the TC Aqualine rears with the R2 fronts and sometimes I ride it as a thruster. I had a Firewire Jacknife (flyer swallow) and they were just a bit too stiff but the TC redline fronts with aqualine rears were perfect - was a good board until I snapped it on a 2' shorie!

I also have a 6'2 Hellfire with KR JP-Q4s in it which I use for fuller/weaker conditions but still some suck. This is like a pretty good allrounder. The JP-Q4s are bigger than the R2s and add a bit of extra hold which seems to counteract the extra volume when it starts to get bigger and would get too skatey on the R2s. I used to use the R2 quads in my 5'8 Vanguard too but it was almost a love hate relationship and I tried these Shapers DVS keel quads in it and it gives it better drive off the bottom to get around sections.

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Davros » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:51 pm

105 kilos and 6'2 in height, 6'4 quad = PC 5 fronts, GXQ rears. I reckon size 7 fins are for 6ft plus and juice only, they stiffen and draw out to much. Try the PC 5s and enjoy. I use the nubster as well, love it

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Drailed » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:30 am

So I find when I surf with the future rasta quad set I tend to get a lot less pivot then when I used to surf my Quartet. Could I try to increase pivot by reducing the rear fin size?
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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:36 am

I find my Rasta quads kinda like that too, really need to engage the rail with those fins I reckon. I find the quartet Twiny fins whippy with so much more hold. I don't use those rasta's in anything over 4ft. Try nub if you have 5 fin option.

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Drailed » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:08 pm

So from research (f$$$ng fins!) I think I need a front fin with less rake.
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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:34 pm

Upright fins to pivot for pocket surfing. Quads leave the pocket to run out on the face. Maybe you need a tri fin old boy.

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Drailed » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:28 pm

I asked Gary about turning it into a thruster and he said go for it, took it to ding man to get the centre fin put in but the swallow was too deep!

Cant bring myself to buy another board.
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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Davros » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:33 pm

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Re: FCS Quads - What are you using ?

Post by Beanpole » Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:57 am

I've just whacked a set of Al Merrick fins into my Fat Bullet. Seems to go okay. The big fins are wickedly sharp. When I had them on the fishcuit I diced my heel a couple of times. Not an issue on this board.
I've noticed if the section is too straight they tend to track a bit. Particularly on my backhand. Other times they turn nice and smooth.

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