correct paddling technique?
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- Huey's Right Hand
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hi . new to forum and been reading this thread with enjoyment. I was wondering if there are any glimpses of the technique on any surfing dvd 's. I think i have it in my minds eye but woud be good to see it in action if only for a few seconds . Also , how deep do you go ? Full arm immersion or only to elbow ? oooh Matron .
I would like to say to Hymie that I use Bowen Technique for my injuries . Google for background and you will find details . I am no New Ager but what struck me was they use it on horses and whats good enough for Mr Ed is good enough for me .
Cheers
I would like to say to Hymie that I use Bowen Technique for my injuries . Google for background and you will find details . I am no New Ager but what struck me was they use it on horses and whats good enough for Mr Ed is good enough for me .
Cheers
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I was watching the underwater shots from Grant Hacket's 1500m final on the weekend and paid close attention to to the way his hand was entering the water on each stroke - it's been a while since I've visited this thread but to me it seemed like a pretty good demonstration of the catch technique discussed here, especially the angle of the hand as it enters the water, followed by what appeared to be a brief pause (presumably to get the best performance out of the stroke).
Has anyone else noticed this in the olympic swimming? I guess it's one of those little things that can set someone apart from the others in a sport that comes down to such minute time differences .
From what I could see he was pretty much the only one doing it (didn't help him get the gold though )
Has anyone else noticed this in the olympic swimming? I guess it's one of those little things that can set someone apart from the others in a sport that comes down to such minute time differences .
From what I could see he was pretty much the only one doing it (didn't help him get the gold though )
First up this is a great thread, I only discovered it on Friday, and I've been itching to put NIcks advice into practice.
I went out for the early on Sunday to a break down here which has a very long paddle (around 400-500 metres) to get out the back to put the technique into practice.
And fcuk did it make my surf a hell of a lot better!!!
I stopped using my shoulder muscles and as Nick advises used my upper back and biceps to pull the water rather than try and shovel/windmill it like I always used to. I actually found that working my hands under the board was better than along the sides, maybe it was my technique, and I was also making a conscious effort to really move my body with every stroke as well to dissipate the stress of the movement. Consequently I got out the back much faster, was less tired and even kept up with my mates who ride bigger boards than me too.
I did find that I got extra power when I used my tricep muscle to flick the water behind me after using my upper back and biceps to pull the water under my board. I think this is called the S motion. I reserved this just for when paddling to catch a wave as it obviously took more energy to do but the paddling speed I got was definitely a lot more as well.
All up thanks heaps Nick this has certainly made a big improvement and my shoulders feel great as well.
I went out for the early on Sunday to a break down here which has a very long paddle (around 400-500 metres) to get out the back to put the technique into practice.
And fcuk did it make my surf a hell of a lot better!!!
I stopped using my shoulder muscles and as Nick advises used my upper back and biceps to pull the water rather than try and shovel/windmill it like I always used to. I actually found that working my hands under the board was better than along the sides, maybe it was my technique, and I was also making a conscious effort to really move my body with every stroke as well to dissipate the stress of the movement. Consequently I got out the back much faster, was less tired and even kept up with my mates who ride bigger boards than me too.
I did find that I got extra power when I used my tricep muscle to flick the water behind me after using my upper back and biceps to pull the water under my board. I think this is called the S motion. I reserved this just for when paddling to catch a wave as it obviously took more energy to do but the paddling speed I got was definitely a lot more as well.
All up thanks heaps Nick this has certainly made a big improvement and my shoulders feel great as well.
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I'm looking forward to doing that Nick, when your publisher ever gets this freaking book distributed.Nick Carroll wrote:See Bottle Thompson demonstrating it in stills seq in the Complete Guide Vol 2.
Re arm, the deeper the better -- the more arm in, the more water displaced.
I told the wife that it would be a suitable Father's day present (both to me and to you) and so she has ordered it from some bookstore a week or two before Father's Day, but here we are, nearly 3 weeks later, and not a word has been read.
Should ask for a discount if they ever come through.
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OK! This is something taught to nipper paddlers to help 'em throw their entire spindly frames into the task of moving water.
Kick the opposite leg and it:
a) shifts the opposing arm fractionally further forward into the grab
b) helps balance the weight shift caused by the reach and grab.
Once you get a bit bigger and shift up to the longer racing mals, you have to de-tune this part of your prone paddling style, which is easy enough 'cause knee paddling is a fair bit quicker than prone, and you tend to focus on that instead.
Kick the opposite leg and it:
a) shifts the opposing arm fractionally further forward into the grab
b) helps balance the weight shift caused by the reach and grab.
Once you get a bit bigger and shift up to the longer racing mals, you have to de-tune this part of your prone paddling style, which is easy enough 'cause knee paddling is a fair bit quicker than prone, and you tend to focus on that instead.
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