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Re: Treat the CAUSE not the SYMPTOM

Post by swvic » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:26 pm

Hope it is the cause wingy and you make a complete recovery

As for the medical profession not totally being on top of everything, it's impossible for them. Not enough research or the capacity to know it all even if there was

Food labelling is dodgy. Some of them preservative numbers and/or names are things that I deal with in a lab environment. As you have found, the Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) often indicate some potentially nasty effects

Says a lot about the manufacturers of those products that they employ food chemists. Heaps of the work they do is not to ensure safety, but to enhance taste and consistency and reduce costs. Chemical preservatives and flavours are consistent in supply, quality and cost. Natural products are often not
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Re: Treat the CAUSE not the SYMPTOM

Post by alakaboo » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:29 am

First doctors sound a bit suss, you shouldn't be on topical steroids for that long without a response.

Sounds obvious, but what brand of sunscreen do you use?
One of my kids was getting rashes on their face and the backs of their hands and knees, we switched sunscreen and they disappeared in 2 days.
The Coles brand one with the orange label is recommended by most dermatologists and kid's groups.

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Re: Treat the CAUSE not the SYMPTOM

Post by Trev » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:53 pm

alakaboo wrote:First doctors sound a bit suss, you shouldn't be on topical steroids for that long without a response.

Sounds obvious, but what brand of sunscreen do you use?
One of my kids was getting rashes on their face and the backs of their hands and knees, we switched sunscreen and they disappeared in 2 days.
The Coles brand one with the orange label is recommended by most dermatologists and kid's groups.
Yeah. My daughter reacts to some sunscreens like that.

PS. Have you been tested for Lupus?
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Re: Treat the CAUSE not the SYMPTOM

Post by alakaboo » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:56 am

It's never lupus

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Post by Trev » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:41 pm

alakaboo wrote:It's never lupus
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Post by alakaboo » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:27 pm

House M.D.

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Post by Trev » Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:44 pm

alakaboo wrote:House M.D.
Oh! Well!

THAT explains a lot. :-o
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Post by Trev » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:52 am

fongss wrote:I don't think it's lupus either

Unless u care report u suffer major calf twitching regularly ?
What's the calf twitching got to do with Lupus?
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Re: Treat the CAUSE not the SYMPTOM

Post by alakaboo » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:21 am

Wingnut stop diagnosing yourself on the internet and see a dermatologist and a nutritionist.

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Post by Karlos » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:53 pm

I'd back the preservatives as being the cause. I sometimes get a mild rash/dry skin in patches below & above the eyes when I eat certain foods with certain shitty preservatives or flavour enhancers. I couldn't tell you what ones but they certainly have an effect.Cut them out & there's a good chance you'll see a difference.

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Post by Karlos » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:21 pm

Beer doesn't do anything to me, aside from getting me pissed of course, but stuff like junk food that's loaded up with artificial flavours. MSG every time. Good way for me to work out which Asian food places use the stuff.

Come to think about it, shitty clear-glassed cold-filtered beer might do it if I remember correctly.

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Post by marauding mullet » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:42 pm

The body can throw up some real mysteries.
I've been getting weird dizzy / swimming head kind of episodes for a couple of years now. Sometimes it goes away for a few days, and it usualy only lasts a couple of hours but comes and goes, but it's only mild and doesn't stop me doing anything I want. Sometimes I wake up and my head is swimming in the middle of the night.
Been through all the standard doctor tests for the usual causes, nothing turned up.

I've just spent a couple of weeks in Indo, and didn't realise I'd had no head spins for 2 weeks until my first bowl of Weetbix and Allbran this morning, then within 30 minutes that old familiar feeling was back. :-?
I'll be checking out that fedup website, thanks Wingnut.
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Post by Trev » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:16 am

mentone mansions wrote:The body can throw up some real mysteries.
I've been getting weird dizzy / swimming head kind of episodes for a couple of years now. Sometimes it goes away for a few days, and it usualy only lasts a couple of hours but comes and goes, but it's only mild and doesn't stop me doing anything I want. Sometimes I wake up and my head is swimming in the middle of the night.
Been through all the standard doctor tests for the usual causes, nothing turned up.

I've just spent a couple of weeks in Indo, and didn't realise I'd had no head spins for 2 weeks until my first bowl of Weetbix and Allbran this morning, then within 30 minutes that old familiar feeling was back. :-?
I'll be checking out that fedup website, thanks Wingnut.
Sounds like vertigo to me.
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Post by Donweather » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:51 am

Sounds like your diet in Oz is either lacking something or too much of the processed preservatives and numbers in our food. Indo has fresh food with very little to no processed/preserved food. Do you eat alot of processed meat like ham etc when in oz. try cutting out as much processed food out of your diet as possible. Read the ingredients of everything you buy/eat and if it has a lot of numbers in it then don't buy it. Even bread. Get the no preservatives bread. Try to also get no preservative beer.

BTW the no preservative bread lasts longer than the preservative bread!!! Go figure!!

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Post by marauding mullet » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:59 am

I'm going to experiment. I have Blueberries on my cereal, and that site says berries have a lot of salicylates, which can cause dizziness, it's a good place to start.
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Re: Treat the CAUSE not the SYMPTOM

Post by marauding mullet » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:09 pm

Donweather wrote:Sounds like your diet in Oz is either lacking something or too much of the processed preservatives and numbers in our food. Indo has fresh food with very little to no processed/preserved food. Do you eat alot of processed meat like ham etc when in oz. try cutting out as much processed food out of your diet as possible. Read the ingredients of everything you buy/eat and if it has a lot of numbers in it then don't buy it. Even bread. Get the no preservatives bread. Try to also get no preservative beer.

BTW the no preservative bread lasts longer than the preservative bread!!! Go figure!!
Back to the drawing board with this, vertigo returned today. Nah Don I don't eat processed meat, or drink beer. I'm diabetic, and extremely careful with diet, and reading labelling. Stopped eating rubbish a long time ago.
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Re: Treat the CAUSE not the SYMPTOM

Post by otway1949 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:01 pm

Corpses in the morgue have a longer shelf life because of the amount of preservatives ingested in the dear departeds lifetime.

The new morbidly obese more so than the dear old grannies of yesteryear.
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