We Find 'em Virgins and we Leave 'em W-hores

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We Find 'em Virgins and we Leave 'em W-hores

Post by mentawaifusion » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:23 pm

How to manage the development of pristine remote surf breaks after they are exposed by the global surf industry machine. Rehabilitation in the wake of strip mining by the big brands...

Surf tourism in the Mentawais has been a hot topic for years. It just came to the boil.
The truth is buried under a mountain of mud, smoke and spin. This new website is dedicated to continuing the debate that has become too hot for Kurungabaa and too unmanageable for Global Surfers. For thinking surfers. http://surfindustry.collectivex.com

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Re: We Find 'em Virgins and we Leave 'em W-hores

Post by Revolution » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:27 pm

Go drown in a puddle.

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Post by TMC » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:59 pm

Revolution wrote:Go drown in a puddle.
Ohh this is soo tempting.
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Post by mentawaifusion » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:41 am

Keep thinking about it... you might just turn into a thinking surfer... :-)

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Post by Dingus » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:06 pm

What's with the title to your thread idiot? Makes you sound like a rockspider. F*ck off back to your seedy little cabin. You probably need a complete audit and check-up from a few taskforces.
offshore1 wrote:^^^I don't think anyone really cares [about boogie boarders] anymore Dae.
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Post by mentawaifusion » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:49 pm

Dae wrote:What's with the title to your thread idiot? Makes you sound like a rockspider. F*ck off back to your seedy little cabin. You probably need a complete audit and check-up from a few taskforces.
Have to say I've never met so many people in need of anger management than here at Realsurf. The thread title is a quote... Jack McCoy said these exact words to me back in 1995 at his home in Yals. We were discussing the GBI video he was making for us. If you are civil I'll give you a link to it. Classic footage of the Ments. Maybe before your time judging by the lack of maturity you show in your posts.

The quote was in the context of finding virgin surf breaks and then exposing them on video, in films and in magazines to help big brands sell their product to the surfing public. Once exposed the virgin breaks are swamped by charter boats, ferals and everyone else and left trashed and looking like a whore (sorry all you working girls out there).

I'm not sure if a virgin barrel is tighter or looser than a whore barrel but Jack seemed to feel conflicted about the morality of the entire process. Daly it seems is suffering from the same inner torment and hence the title of Rick's thread at Global Surfers and the title of the new webhost for the on-going debate... which you are not invited to join. Hope this is clear now.

I live in a very nice and pretty large villa in the jungle thanks so dont give me advice about where to live. If you dont like what I post then join some other thread. It is a free world and I wont miss you at all.

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Post by Dingus » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:37 pm

Fair enough on the quote. I was calling it how I saw it without any knowledge of either the use of the phrase before, or your willingness to use it to imply your stance on these matters, which I take to be on the side of exploitation. The other things I said I stand by, as you seem the sort of person to say such things to. I don't care about your links to be honest, as you come across as someone I'd like to distance myself from. You can have all the achievements in surfings past that you can claim, that doesn't change much really, does it champ.
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Post by mentawaifusion » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:07 pm

Dae wrote:Fair enough on the quote. I was calling it how I saw it without any knowledge
I think that sums it up. There are lot of people who charge in with preconceptions and prejudice that has been moulded by the surf mags wanting to tell people in the surf resort industry how to do things.

Rather than ask intelligent questions and do some research, they take the easy brain dead way out and rant about exploitation and colonization. That is why we set up the new forum. So thinking surfers who do care about the truth can ask real questions of real players in the industry.

Would you qualify to join a discussion like that? Prove you are open minded and that you have something to contribute or hang around here at RS and sling abuse and get your rocks off regressing to the level of a prepubescence delinquent. Your call.

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Post by Dingus » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:59 pm

Dude, you've gone off on a tangent there.

I took your quote and gave you my opinion on what it represented to me.
You took a part of what I said and then spun off into your sales pitch, none of what you said represented the prior dialogue. I did not rant on anything related to the surf industry on any level. We have just done the same thing to each other.

Too long you have played the defensive game I think. Why is this, at the core and at the beginning of it all? People normally have reasons for a rant.
offshore1 wrote:^^^I don't think anyone really cares [about boogie boarders] anymore Dae.
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Post by mentawaifusion » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:05 am

Dae wrote: your willingness to use it to imply your stance on these matters, which I take to be on the side of exploitation. The other things I said I stand by, as you seem the sort of person to say such things to. I don't care about your links to be honest, as you come across as someone I'd like to distance myself from. You can have all the achievements in surfings past that you can claim, that doesn't change much really, does it champ.
Dae old thing, here is the rest of your quote... You say I support exploitation but that is what I'm fighting against, you say you can be abusive "because you seem the sort of person to say such things to"... duh? presumably because you think I'm into exploitation... which I am not. and therefore you want to distance yourself from me (I'm ok with that for sure.... but please do it and refrain from commenting) and you say that my past changes nothing regardless of "my achievements in surfing's past" what ever you mean by that.

And YOU say I'm going off on a tangent. Try thinking, it gets easier with practice.

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Post by mentawaifusion » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:14 am

Dae wrote: your willingness to use it to imply your stance on these matters, which I take to be on the side of exploitation. The other things I said I stand by, as you seem the sort of person to say such things to. I don't care about your links to be honest, as you come across as someone I'd like to distance myself from. You can have all the achievements in surfings past that you can claim, that doesn't change much really, does it champ.
The rest of your wooly post. Can you explain it? I cant. Try thinking, it gets easier with practice.

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Post by wanto » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:14 pm

mod marcus locked the thread, so i'll continue here .....

does anyone have an accurate list of cameron owned assets in the region? i think there are a fair few travellers here who might want to know how to avoid supporting the guy.

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Post by Chong » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:24 pm

wanto wrote:does anyone have an accurate list of cameron owned assets in the region? i think there are a fair few travellers here who might want to know how to avoid supporting the guy.
I am totally with you Wanto - I'll be going back to the mentawais at some point & am very keen to make sure that Dick Cameron and his associates are not getting any of my money.

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