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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:34 am

It's a genuine thread. I'm interested to hear about them in an objective way. But I don't need a defensive evangelist ramming it down my throat in another thread.

Now get typing petal.

But most importantly stop with the angry talk. You sound like Geoff.
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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by surfywurfy » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:39 am

YOU are a genuine half wit....

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by aaarating » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:45 am

Beerfan wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:28 am
The double ender and the pintail on his site look sweet.
Sounds like a marital aid catalogue from the Tool Store? Does MCoy make a strap on version for raunchy surfers?

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:46 am

Read the Zot speil from McCoy. Even in his marketing gumpf he hammers other board design. Is he being defensive or just bloody minded?

Is a silly question because you're going to do spaz out and tell the world Geoff is right and every other turd is wrong.

It's the absurdity of this approach that drives me bonkers. It's Jonestown all over again.
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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Beanpole » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:47 am

Cranked wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:01 am
Train wreck should have been incorporated somewhere in that new thread title
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YOU are a genuine half wit....
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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Beanpole » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:49 am

Can someone post some footage other than Cheyne surfing Bells in the Neolithic Period or that guy on the minimal flaying about in Indo?

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:49 am

aaarating wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:45 am
Beerfan wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:28 am
The double ender and the pintail on his site look sweet.
Sounds like a marital aid catalogue from the Tool Store? Does MCoy make a strap on version for raunchy surfers?
That was number 12 I think

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Beanpole » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:51 am

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:51 am

Beanpole wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:49 am
Can someone post some footage other than Cheyne surfing Bells in the Neolithic Period or that guy on the minimal flaying about in Indo?
BP don't get all girly man Alan Alder on us and start pulling out 1970's surfing memorabilia to point to a good design. Look forward not back, even at your age.

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:53 am

This is where all McCoy threads end up. Now there's a home for it.

Point proven.

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Beanpole » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:59 am

Davros wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:51 am
Beanpole wrote:
Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:49 am
Can someone post some footage other than Cheyne surfing Bells in the Neolithic Period or that guy on the minimal flaying about in Indo?
BP don't get all girly man Alan Alder on us and start pulling out 1970's surfing memorabilia to point to a good design. Look forward not back, even at your age.
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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:18 am

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Cranked » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:18 am

I've never seen any good recent (last 10 years) footage of anyone doing something good on a McCoy, nor have I seen anyone doing anything good. They are pretty rare boards.

I just like riding them and I've probably spent at least 10 years doing it, starting in 1982 when I bought one of Kingsley Lookers (pro surfer at the time) old boards (a 6"2 zap/nugget single) and rode it for a year in Bali.

So, obviously I don't need nor care about getting any validation from anyone else about what they can or cannot do. Best all rounder board ever made imo and I always come back to them.

I'm also a prolific purchaser of boards, I must have owned at least 200 over my surfing life.
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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:26 am

Cranked everyone knows you're not sold on one or a few designs.

Point in case. All jokes aside I'm interested in the "why" and "where". Alakboo's description of the snowboard in slush and flat tyres was interesting and I certainly didn't think " oh that would be terrible" but thought that might be nice at times.

So you feel good riding Zots in powerful lined up reef surf. For me that's valuable information.

I'm peaking out on Gary McNeill boards right now. I wouldn't be riding them if I didn't read the feedback in the O'Neill thread. And the guys who had/have them have been spot on in their objective assessment. This has saved me time and money.
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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Beanpole » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:07 am

Yep, I am always interested to get Crankys take on boards. I've seen quite a few people ride them over the years. I usually start looking at boards seriously when I see someone doing good stuff n them. Particularly if I know how they usually surf.

My basic thing with McCoys generally is they seem to be ridden off the backfoot. I always felt Simons development of the thruster owed a bit to Geoffs orientation. I only surf off my backfoot on my backhand as a generalisation.

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Beanpole » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:08 am

Davros wrote:
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#*! :d <: :~ :D: :-o ))((

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Davros » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:10 am

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Re: The Good Luck A Number One McCoy Thread

Post by Cranked » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:35 pm

Davros, there's a bit of backround needed.

Every board of Geoffs that I've looked at (hand shapes and surftech) has a lot of rocker in the tail, like 1.75" in the last 30".

This made them a bit slow and mushy (as per 'boos description) in less powerful surf.

But as everyone knows, the force exerted when planing on water goes up as the cube of the speed. So once you get them in good waves they start to really excell, and they stay loose as the speed increases because they sit up higher on the dome.

Then along came TSA. The first lot of Nuggets were the same as the surftechs and hand shapes. But after a few years they were all redesigned and the rocker in the tail was dramatically reduced, from 1.75" to about 0.8".

This dramatically changed their performance. It's only in the TSA boards, but as hand shapes are about $1200 and shipping (to Perth for example) is $400 most people will only ever own a TSA board.

So now the performance characteristics described by 'boo are gone. They are fast, catch waves really easily, but don't turn so well.

The zots have a narrower tail, and a little more tail rocker, so I bought them in preference to the nuggets. I've been finding my way with them though as they are quite different (again TSA, not hand shapes)

As a single fin I found they were easily the worst board I've ever ridden. The combination of the wide flat tail and the Gulwing is extremely difficult to do anything with in most situations.

Changing them to a quad was amazing and a dramatic improvement. The combination of the drag and turning ability is perfect.

So far they have been great in everything up to double overhead, power and control in macking super fast waves. I hope to push them further, but double overhead has been my max comfort level for a while, so it means a big effort from me to push beyond that. I think it will be me, not the board, that will be the biggest obstacle though.
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