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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by Nick Carroll » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:37 pm

Nah the whole vibe at that event is a bit crap. While it's a full on mainstay break for Sth Orange County in summer south swells, Lowers is rarely in that Snapper type zone -- drawing off the wave base and steepening under the lip -- and it deteriorates rapidly with late morning sea breezes. It runs down the line a bit but it's flat-faced with little to no energy in the lip. Overrated except on its absolute best day. And I'm speaking as someone who's surfed the absolute shit out of it for years.

Not only that, the location isn't suited to a CT set-up, it's dusty, hot, dry, and a long walk in to a State Park area.

Better a QS I reckon.

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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by steve shearer » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:08 pm

Is there a Californian wave suited to a CT event.

Agree with the surf spot suitability appraisal.
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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by Drailed » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:21 pm

I definitely think they should trial Lennox Head point as a stop on the tour. Perfect infrastructure for it
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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by Nick Carroll » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:29 pm

steve shearer wrote:Is there a Californian wave suited to a CT event.

Agree with the surf spot suitability appraisal.
Oh yeah! Quite a few. Mostly winter spots. But I would only be calling them on the basis of wave quality, not any of the other factors. Like Rincon is totally CT surfable but it wouldn't be acceptable to the area's surfing population.

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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by crabmeat thompson » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:44 pm

Drailed wrote:I definitely think they should trial Lennox Head point as a stop on the tour. Perfect infrastructure for it

it's a natural amphitheatre!!
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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by buddy » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:56 pm

They may as well go back to Puerto with "la Jolla" as a back up since it's now fully exposed.

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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by bobjs » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:16 pm

I agree with the assessment of the locations against the WSL scoring criteria. But what's interesting is that not all the locations considered to meet the criteria, are the best viewing IMHO.

You need the dreamy or critical waves first, then the competition is the icing on the cake to make it worthwhile viewing.

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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by saltman » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:16 pm

Cannot believe RIO gets the nod from Nick above J Bay!
Details please
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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by channels » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:25 pm

I'm surprised they don't go back to GLand. The one in the 90's was awesome.

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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by saltman » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:29 pm

Shit Yeah
I think Indonesia is off the WSL agenda for some time
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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by crabmeat thompson » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:08 pm

saltman wrote:Cannot believe RIO gets the nod from Nick above J Bay!
Details please

He sold out to the corporate overlords?
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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by The Mighty Sunbird » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:16 pm

Some people will do anything for free boardshorts
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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by Nick Carroll » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:00 pm

saltman wrote:Cannot believe RIO gets the nod from Nick above J Bay!
Details please
salty I am afraid you will have to go back a page or so and read through the whole shtick

but v briefly, beach breaks fit the heat needs (30mins, two excellent rides, opponent has half the priority time) and CT judging (vertical carves, close to the lip surfing, barrels, airs), and thus tend to be completely surfed, whereas JBay doesn't entirely cater to 'em (too long and lateral), and thus tends to be under-surfed (one section only, connection sacrificed for a move). Though as mentioned the free-surfing sessions at good Jeffreys are crazy, and some of the heats are usually off the chart.

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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by Nick Carroll » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:00 pm

Plus yeah there's the boardshorts

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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by bobjs » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:20 pm

But what do the viewers want to see? Personally, a speed run by a super talent to set up a couple of turns or a tube is way better than 50 vertical snaps.
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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by steve shearer » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:32 pm

yeah, it's funny, the pros still all namecheck Curren as the guy who set the template of how to surf j-bay but very rarely do they attempt the same lines.
I wonder what judges would do if they saw Curren surfing like Curren out there........oh wait.
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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by Nick Carroll » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:43 pm

yeah no kidding.

I know everyone is brilliant these days, the women are still on the rise, but it does feel to me like the men have kinda peaked, like the greatest surfing we are likely to see in that arena has already been done.

It's probably just age.

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Re: princess margaret river pro

Post by steve shearer » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:25 pm

that last edit of Jordy at J-Bay was large. If he wins Bells and JBay .....
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