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Re: Quiver thread

Post by brendo » Wed May 03, 2017 6:15 pm

channels wrote:
Nick Carroll wrote:
batoes wrote:Epic, Nick - you should create a board-riding lotto system. Charge $200 a ticket and let the winner choose a board and go surfing with them for an hour.
OK then gang, imagine you were in said lottery and won, what board would you pick?
7'0" AB 6 channel. Just to rub my hand on the channels.
as good as the AB channels are phil myers is underrated and id say his equal. nick could tell us that though as he has both.
some the pics on instagram phil has been posting, those boards look like artwork

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Re: Quiver thread

Post by JET01 » Wed May 03, 2017 8:25 pm

Nick Carroll wrote:umm fcuk did I write in this

5'2" FW Evo
5'3" Tomo handshape Evo
5'4" FW Nano

5'7" MC Shiva model (newie, solved the entry rocker problem)
six x 5'9" MC deep concaves, five round pins, one moontail, sorta different combos of concave and release vees etc
5'9" Byrning Spears Dale Wilson 6 channel swallowtail
5'10 MG roundtail
5'10" HS FF round pin single concave
5'10" Webber banana rocker single concave
5'11" Webber banana rocker single concave
5'11" Campbell five fin Bonzer
5'11" Bushrat flextail
6'0" MC Pro tow moontail
6'0" Stu Kenson single fin MP outline

6'1" HS FF round pin single concave
6'3" AB 6 channel pintail
6'4" Byrning Spears Dale Wilson 6 channel swallowtail
6'5" AB 6 channel pintail
6'6" MC Pro tow moontail
7'0" AB 6 channel pintail
7'0" Banksy pintail
7'1" AB 6 channel pintail
7'7" AB 6 channel pintail
8'0" AB 6 channel pintail
8'1"AB 6 channel pintail
8'6" Rawson pintail
8'6" AB 6 channel swallowtail

6'0" AB single concave pintail towboard

2 x 10'6" Kracka surf racing paddleboards
12' Parmenter PSV single fin pintail
12' Kracka open ocean stock racing paddleboard
19' BOS Enforcer surf racing ski

eight or nine sundry other small wave boards lying around, if anyone wants to buy one
Didn't you have a few More Surfboards? Didn't get a mention?
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by JET01 » Wed May 03, 2017 8:27 pm

JET01 wrote:
Nick Carroll wrote:umm fcuk did I write in this

5'2" FW Evo
5'3" Tomo handshape Evo
5'4" FW Nano

5'7" MC Shiva model (newie, solved the entry rocker problem)
six x 5'9" MC deep concaves, five round pins, one moontail, sorta different combos of concave and release vees etc
5'9" Byrning Spears Dale Wilson 6 channel swallowtail
5'10 MG roundtail
5'10" HS FF round pin single concave
5'10" Webber banana rocker single concave
5'11" Webber banana rocker single concave
5'11" Campbell five fin Bonzer
5'11" Bushrat flextail
6'0" MC Pro tow moontail
6'0" Stu Kenson single fin MP outline

6'1" HS FF round pin single concave
6'3" AB 6 channel pintail
6'4" Byrning Spears Dale Wilson 6 channel swallowtail
6'5" AB 6 channel pintail
6'6" MC Pro tow moontail
7'0" AB 6 channel pintail
7'0" Banksy pintail
7'1" AB 6 channel pintail
7'7" AB 6 channel pintail
8'0" AB 6 channel pintail
8'1"AB 6 channel pintail
8'6" Rawson pintail
8'6" AB 6 channel swallowtail

6'0" AB single concave pintail towboard

2 x 10'6" Kracka surf racing paddleboards
12' Parmenter PSV single fin pintail
12' Kracka open ocean stock racing paddleboard
19' BOS Enforcer surf racing ski

eight or nine sundry other small wave boards lying around, if anyone wants to buy one
Didn't you have a few More Surfboards? Didn't get a mention?

Hard to know which one I'd chose for a surf, would need them all lined up in a shop like fashion and a detailed surf report to help me chose the right tool for the day.
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by Davros » Wed May 03, 2017 8:31 pm

I wonder when the last time that Bonzer saw salt water

Thought there would be a Drifta in there, probably under a flower bed of posies

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Re: Quiver thread

Post by JET01 » Wed May 03, 2017 8:50 pm

I read about the MC Shiva model today actually, looks like the board you'd have if you were a fin nut and could only have one board.
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by Beanpole » Wed May 03, 2017 9:47 pm

Davros wrote:I wonder when the last time that Bonzer saw salt water

Thought there would be a Drifta in there, probably under a flower bed of posies
Where's the wave ski?

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Re: Quiver thread

Post by Nick Carroll » Thu May 04, 2017 8:51 am

One board I didn't list above is pretty interesting. It's an original Firewire - Bert Burger/Josh Dowling - from the first phase of FW, when they were sorta pre-launch. Has the full thick balsa perimeter stringer. 6'1" squashtail which tells you a bit about the time. I hardly ever ride it but the thing feels insane, super light, wonderful response from the balsa, and it's not burdened with that almost cement-like composite lamination they started doing pretty soon after Burger was "let go". I guess I have hung on to it because it represents a moment when the change from Clark Foam's feudal dominance of boardmaking to a much broader base of materials suddenly produced something really superior.

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Re: Quiver thread

Post by Cranked » Thu May 04, 2017 9:05 am

I had three of Bert's boards when he was making them in Mandurah in the late 90s.

They were astoundingly light and strong, but they were $1000 a pop, and in the end there was a one year wait, so I went to Surftechs which were around $600 and already in stock.

I had been riding Randy French's sandwich windsurf wave boards (under the Seatrend label) for at least 5 years before that and had been eagerly awaiting surfboards in the same construction.

So my history of riding composite surfboards goes back about 30 years and that's a lot of satisfied riding well before the the sudden and absurd trashing of the surftech brand became a popular pastime.
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by steve shearer » Thu May 04, 2017 9:45 am

Sudden and absurd?

nah. Gradual and justified.
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by saltman » Thu May 04, 2017 9:54 am

I would have liked to see The whole perimeter stringer idea get wider uptake
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by Cranked » Thu May 04, 2017 10:19 am

steve shearer wrote:Sudden and absurd?

nah. Gradual and justified.
Not to me, I'd adjusted to the stiffness 20 years before without even noticing it was an issue, and all my wave sailing boards had been made in the Cobra factory since about 1985.

It took about 2 years for the WA wave sailors to change from riding 95% poly to 95% epoxy. I was one of the last hold outs, but as everyone said at the time, once you ride an epoxy you'll never ride a poly again, and this despite the epoxies being more than double the price
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by steve shearer » Thu May 04, 2017 11:02 am

wave sailing is different to surfing.

What I meant though is that Surftech was well tested by the market, well supported by the surf media (maybe that was just the ad dollars talking) and had a pretty wide uptake.
So there was no sudden and absurd trashing of Surftech.

The product was only gradually rejected by the market as people became aware of the limitations and weighed those up against the existing alternatives. It was an entirely rational process.
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by JaM71 » Thu May 04, 2017 11:27 am

Tell us about your bonzer & driftas Nick, ever get the hankering to bust them out now & again or u just can't find them amongst the flower beds?
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by Cranked » Thu May 04, 2017 1:28 pm

steve shearer wrote:wave sailing is different to surfing.

What I meant though is that Surftech was well tested by the market, well supported by the surf media (maybe that was just the ad dollars talking) and had a pretty wide uptake.
So there was no sudden and absurd trashing of Surftech.

The product was only gradually rejected by the market as people became aware of the limitations and weighed those up against the existing alternatives. It was an entirely rational process.
Thats a most rational and sane viewpoint, most people (including you most of the time) display a visceral, emotional and irrational hatred for surftechs and all who own them.

I find that attitude most alarming - especially given that the construction and country of manufacture is the same as tens of thousands of poly boards - and I have commented before that that attitude shares common ground with similar irrational prejudices based on racial, religious and sexual preferences
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by steve shearer » Thu May 04, 2017 1:41 pm

you just broke the internet with that strawman argument Cranked.
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by Cranked » Thu May 04, 2017 2:13 pm

That was not a straw man argument.

You and the other surftech haters are the ones with a problem, not me.

To me they are just surfboards with advantages and disadvantages just like any other surfboard, they don't embody any meaning
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Re: Quiver thread

Post by Davros » Thu May 04, 2017 2:24 pm

It's alive!!!

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Re: Quiver thread

Post by steve shearer » Thu May 04, 2017 2:25 pm

Cranked wrote:That was not a straw man argument.
You just directly equated people dissing surftechs with racism, sexism and (maybe) islamophobia.
I'd say your safely in strawman territory there or some other bizarre parallel universe.
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