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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by crabmeat thompson » Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:05 am

I read it all too. I'm not sure either would do much of anything with a white around.

Wasn't one of the divers who got taken in WA wearing a shark shield?
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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by Cranked » Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:50 am

Braithy wrote:Wasn't one of the divers who got taken in WA wearing a shark shield?
Im not aware of that in WA but there was that diver killed while doing research in SA while wearing one.
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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by crabmeat thompson » Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:51 am

Yeah, that's the one
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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by MrMik » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:07 am

Cranked wrote:
Braithy wrote:Wasn't one of the divers who got taken in WA wearing a shark shield?
Im not aware of that in WA but there was that diver killed while doing research in SA while wearing one.
Do you mean the death of Paul William Buckland?

Full coroners report: http://www.courts.sa.gov.au/CoronersFin ... illiam.pdf

If you take the time to read it, you will see that the coroner actually recommends the use of the SharkShield. The shark attack was thought to be due to incorrect use of the Shark Pod. Read it, it's quite clear and a gripping read, unlike my disjointed stuff.

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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by MrMik » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:31 am

Cranked wrote:
Braithy wrote:Wasn't one of the divers who got taken in WA wearing a shark shield?
Im not aware of that in WA but there was that diver killed while doing research in SA while wearing one.
I think I found the one you are mentioning here: A 23 year old research diver named Jarrod David Stehbens, killed in SA on 24-8-2005.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct= ... 1572,d.dGY
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Here is part of what the coroner said:
"In particular, I examined the issue as to whether the deceased ought to have been wearing an electronic shark repellent device at the time he executed the fatal dive and whether if he had been wearing such a device, the outcome in this case may have been different."

The particular models involved were the SeaChange Shark Shield Dive01 model. The Shark Shields were stowed away on the boat. Their presence on the boat was not exactly conspicuous and in any event not known to any of the diving party.

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Post by crabmeat thompson » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:50 am

MrMik wrote: You guys crack me up with your complete lack of attention to detail #*!


yah you're totally right, in general with shark shield stuff i lack attention fullstop. if it came to the point where a shark shield was necessary, i'd move to somewhere warmer in a heartbeat and start over again ... or perish the thought, just give the whole game away.


doesn't mean i don't enjoy your posts about them though. I mean what are the chances you own a GWS to conduct these tests with. it's just outstanding.
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Post by Kunji » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:10 am

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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by Davros » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:17 am

Was going to have a surf this morning but a labradoddle and bull terrier where spotted close to shore. Waves just weren't that good to risk it.

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Post by Over55yrs » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:17 am

The latest in shark shields............

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/auss ... iq10v.html

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Post by tootr » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:19 pm

Story in the SMH mentioned Mick fanning got paid $75K for the Channel Nine interview and promptly gave it to the Ballina victim.
Outstanding !
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Post by Drailed » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:26 pm

$75K is a lot of anyones money. Not even a portion of it but the full amount... What a generous bloke. Fair bloody dinkum.
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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by bomboraa » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:34 pm

Braithy wrote:
alakaboo wrote:Bomboraa probably has a better idea, braithy, but I think the idea that big whites only eat mammals is overblown. Probably because it has a longer residence time in the digestive tract.
I know for a fact that they eat stingrays.

A big meal would keep them going for a while. With the water this warm most of their energetic needs are met, and they are very efficient swimmers.

Plus, dolphins.

so fishing stock numbers – salmons, blues etc – could be a direct correlation to whites being inshore more?
Salmon for sure I reckon, as they hug the coastline. Bulls love to munch them as well. There's another inshore schooling fish which has made a huge come back in NSW because of a change to commercial fishing: yellowtail kingfish. The one decent thing that mongrel Eddie Obeid did was ban floating kingfish traps. These traps devastated the kingie population. Now they are prolific. The Harbour's full of rat kings most of the year but especially in summer and autumn, so is Long Reef. Juvenile whites also love eating rat kingies.
Bluefin not so much as far as attracting whites inshore, as they are a true bluewater fish and you don't find them, at least in NSW, til your'e at least 20km out. But you certainly find whites with the bluefin schools so it just means a better chance of all those baby whites born since they became protected, surviving. Makos love the bluefin too and are far more common travelling with the bluefin.
I think one other thing to ponder is we had that decade long drought which really affected inshore pelagic and schooling fish along NSW coast. Was amazing when it broke: baitfish numbers exploded, the baitfish predators appeared and the whole coast came to life. Lots of nutrients being pumped into the ocean. Be interesting to compare shark attack/encounter stats during that decade of drought to post drought when we've had decent rain. Drought on land drought at sea is an old fisho's lament.

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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by alakaboo » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:38 pm

Good point.
The turnaround at my regular fishing spot was astonishing, it was like the early 90s again.

Wonder what the sharks were eating in the interim?

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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by Morgan The Moon » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:40 pm

I remember Fong did a test, putting a current through his tinny (I'm not making this up am I ???)

He mentioned that sharks in close proximity were repelled, but that it initially attracted a number of sharks. I've heard this from a few sources, the last of which was Paul de Gelder at a recent speech (the navy diver who was attacked in Sydney Harbour).

So, my take is that I won't be buying a shield, and I won't be going near anyone that's wearing one in the line-up (hmmm....there's an idea).

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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by MrMik » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:51 pm

The second coroners report mentioned above is also very interesting, but much too long for some. I mean the one about the research diver who got eaten while the Shark Shields were gathering dust in the boat.
In a passage towards the end of the report, an expert outlines one possible scenario causing shark attacks: The beasties are not hungry enough!
When there is abundant food available, they may eventually be full, and then they can enjoy the luxury of a cruise and an exploratory nibble here and there. Too much shark food out towards the open ocean could bring in bored and inquisitive sharks with too much time on their fins!

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Re: Jeffreys Bay Pro 2015

Post by marauding mullet » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:18 pm

Braithy wrote:I read it all too. I'm not sure either would do much of anything with a white around.

Wasn't one of the divers who got taken in WA wearing a shark shield?
I recall a case where a diver was killed, SA or WA, he was wearing a shark shield but it wasn't turned on
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