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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:27 pm
by Legion
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:41 pm
by Beanpole
The sand pumping and groins weren't really about creating surf though. That was a by product. It was beach stabilisation and sand retention.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:48 pm
by foamy
and clear waterways for boat traffic.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:49 pm
by black duck
steve shearer wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:53 pm
what I mean by that is in my lifetime, less than a hundred Kays away there has been a huge coastal engineering project which involved four government bodies (NSW state govt, QLD state govt, Gold Coast City Council, Tweed shire council) and a private operator.
Rule of law?.....that was a legislative and administrative nightmare and they got through it.

And that followed on from another massive coastal engineering project up at Southport. Also in my lifetime.

Totally rejigged the coastline.


Both those projects created surf of almost unimaginable perfection and consistency.

Quite literally some of the best waves in the world.

Staggering engineering achievements.


In that context, a little Vwall or V reef at Tugun beach, say, is nothing.
None of it had anything to do with creating waves though, that was a by-product of the process and arguably largely a lucky coincidence. It also fcuked Kirra for a good deal of time.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:55 pm
by Cranked
Legion wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:27 pm
Legion just got home from there. It was fun, amongst the closeouts.
Yeah, really I would have gone out if I could have. Maybe in a month or two.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:35 am
by steve shearer
black duck wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:49 pm
steve shearer wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:53 pm
what I mean by that is in my lifetime, less than a hundred Kays away there has been a huge coastal engineering project which involved four government bodies (NSW state govt, QLD state govt, Gold Coast City Council, Tweed shire council) and a private operator.
Rule of law?.....that was a legislative and administrative nightmare and they got through it.

And that followed on from another massive coastal engineering project up at Southport. Also in my lifetime.

Totally rejigged the coastline.


Both those projects created surf of almost unimaginable perfection and consistency.

Quite literally some of the best waves in the world.

Staggering engineering achievements.


In that context, a little Vwall or V reef at Tugun beach, say, is nothing.
None of it had anything to do with creating waves though, that was a by-product of the process and arguably largely a lucky coincidence. It also fcuked Kirra for a good deal of time.
Maintaining or improving recreational amenity is stipulated in the legislation and contracts tabled in parliament.
A large part of recreational amenity on the southern Gold Coast is surfing.

Advisory committees regarding this matter were formed and advise the contractors (McDonnell-Dowell).


It's publicly accessible information.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:53 am
by alakaboo
'Recreational amenity of the beaches' is the key phrase in the deeds and legislation, Steve.

Neither act, nor the original deeds, nor the schedules include any mention of waves or surf.
As far as I am aware the only mention of maintaining or improving surf in the original paperwork and planning is in a public works committee report.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:03 am
by offshore1
What about fishos servicing soccer mums?
Any clauses covering that?
Otherwise it's an egregious breech of contract

With malice and forethought , denying all
"recreational amenities of the longtard."

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:35 am
by tootr
But the Webber V wave speil said property values triple near good surf breaks!

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:04 am
by steve shearer
alakaboo wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:53 am
'Recreational amenity of the beaches' is the key phrase in the deeds and legislation, Steve.


Thats true but I've been in a room at GCCC with engineers and bureaucrats when surf amenity has been explicitly discussed in relation to recreational amenity of the beaches.
You may have too.


A more pertinent example is project Kirra in 2013, where Kirra Big Groyne was re-extended 30m to improve surf amenity.

"In 1996, the City removed 30 metres of Kirra groyne after the commencement of the Tweed River Entrance Sand Bypass Project. These works were undertaken to assist with the movement of increased volumes of sand resulting from the bypass project.

As the movement of sand along southern Gold Coast beaches returned to more natural levels, community stakeholders expressed a desire to improve recreational surfing amenity at Kirra Point, and that the City should consider reinstating Kirra Groyne to its original constructed length of 180 metres.

As a result, the City invested $800,000 in the reinstatement of the groyne to its original length. The works are a key element of the Mayor's strategic initiative to invest in the future management of Gold Coast foreshores and align to the City's Ocean Beaches Strategy".

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:35 pm
by alakaboo
tootr wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:35 am
But the Webber V wave speil said property values triple near good surf breaks!
That's not all that far from the truth, in Narrabeen and southern California at least.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:38 pm
by steve shearer
everywhere.

good surf is gold.

took a while to wash through but cashed up baby boomers love good surf.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:02 pm
by Trev
Great news. Funding is pretty much under control and now Council Approval.
This clubhouse will be shared by Windansea and Caloundra Mal Club. But Windansea has been the prime moving force. Location is the park at the end of Buderim St, Currimundi. AKA Ann St.

***HISTORY MADE** this morning at the Nambour Council Chambers after 49 years strong of WindanSea. The Sunshine Coast Council vote 9 for and 2 against for the construction of our Clubhouse. We thank councillors @peter.cox & deputy Mayor Tim Dywer for the unwavering support.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:46 pm
by foamy
That is good news for you, Trev. Congrats!

Kelly Slater. The last few years have perhaps tarnished the KS brand for some.
But this year! Winning unlikely heats!
On Tuesday, he is seen surfing on the Tweed Coast in Australia. On Thursday, he is in Brazil in crappy small waves winning his heat by out-hustling 2 young guns. At age 47. He really is a freak!

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:26 am
by steve shearer
cold coffee

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:31 pm
by The Mighty Sunbird
World-first' inflatable surf reef to be installed in Western Australia

At Bunbury in November. Council has kicked in 75k

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:21 pm
by Legion
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:43 am
by Nick Carroll
Looks like ol TardG’s gonna get lit up in about a week. Look out TardG! ESE swell incoming!!