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Disturbingly sad story this.
Well written and thought provoking.

I'd like to think I would get involved pretty quickly if I witnessed anything like this.

Plenty of women surf at my local these days. Some are more than competent. Others less so but all conduct themselves well in the surf and easily fit in as part of the crew.

I know Rebecca Olive who is quoted in Nick's article. A very nice person and a well respected member of the Brisbane Boardriders group.
Is there less aggression in the surf these days? I'm not sure. It probably gets more mileage now because of social media and a general increase in knowledge about personal rights.

https://www.coastalwatch.com/surfing/25 ... -of-threat

Trev wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:16 pm

Disturbingly sad story this.
Well written and thought provoking.

I'd like to think I would get involved pretty quickly if I witnessed anything like this.

Plenty of women surf at my local these days. Some are more than competent. Others less so but all conduct themselves well in the surf and easily fit in as part of the crew.

I know Rebecca Olive who is quoted in Nick's article. A very nice person and a well respected member of the Brisbane Boardriders group.
Is there less aggression in the surf these days? I'm not sure. It probably gets more mileage now because of social media and a general increase in knowledge about personal rights.

https://www.coastalwatch.com/surfing/25 ... -of-threat

Something to think about - in my experience in crowded waves (of which I avoid for the most part), you see some guys and some girls taking more than their share. Some men who are often paddled past by other men build up some sense of anger but don't make a confrontation and then when a woman does it they take it all out on them picking on the [perceived] weakest link. Maybe the woman hasn't even taken more than her share but it is still perceived that way, and the average joe would perceive themselves as getting less than their share.

Obviously this doesn't account, nor excuse, for many of the tales above but maybe some circumstances.

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Yep. The male psyche has a lot to answer for.

Always plenty of fcukwits in the surf. Self centred misfits with axes to grind. Throw in a bit of ice and anything can happen.

Self centred misfits. There are few for sure. Good way to put it.

Wow, 40 years of surfing and I've never seen or witnessed anything like the incidents detailed above.


Are they isolated incidents or is this evidence of something more widespread?

The increase in women surfing has been one of the main features of the surf culture over the last decade.

I see way less aggression in the surf compared to when I started.

Carroll will resort to any excuse for paddling behind chicks and perving on their taunt glistening buttocks.

Girl surfer: "What are you doing sir?"

Nick Carroll [impossible to miss in his fluorescent pink costume]: " Research, dear, research. "

Anyone on here witnessed women getting abused in the surf?

Never. But then there's almost never women in the water at the breaks I surf. I wonder if this is mainly a feature of countries* like Australia and most of South America with 'traditional' attitudes towards women (the little woman should be protected from herself by the big strong male) where some blokes just can't handle the perceived challenge to their machismo of sharing waves on an equal footing with women. There's an old thread on here about Layne Beachley entering a men's CT event in Australia and, with a couple of exceptions (Larry, chrisb), the over-riding message was that she wasn't fucken welcome and she made a fucken fool of herself


* the Israeli is the outlier, obviously, but all bets are off with those mad cunts

not sure "traditional attitudes" to women have been applicable in Australia, at least anywhere on the coast for the last 20 years at least.

But surfing has been a male dominated culture, although that is rapidly changing.

Wonder where the girls Nick spoke to are from, seems like a spread.

godsavethequeen wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:03 am

But then there's almost never women in the water at the breaks I surf.

Girls don't surf in Wales?

There's a report that was published last month that found that 43% of Australians hold traditional views of women. I would post a link but well, you know

I didn't say they don't surf, just that they don't surf where I do

Whats special about where you surf that girls don't surf there?

Nothing. There's a pretty small population of competent female surfers here anyway and I always do my best to surf where the crowds aren't. (Of course, I'm excluding kids messing about and adult learners from this. The gender split seems near enough 50:50 in that cohort)

Whenever it's big and gnarly, i.e. hurricane surf, nor'easters, etc, 99% male surfers out in it in NC.
Warm small glassy days, heaps of girls, and far too many have little idea of basic surf etiquette. Dropping in and ditching boards are two very common occurrences.

I have to come here to Realsurf to suckle at the bosom of our fellow female surf compadres.
Hold on, umm, there were some here a while back.
Maybe they're all over at beach grit.

At least we have petulance.

...and in the right light, skip.

offshore1 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:01 am

Carroll will resort to any excuse for paddling behind chicks and perving on their taunt glistening buttocks.

Girl surfer: "What are you doing sir?"

Nick Carroll [impossible to miss in his fluorescent pink costume]: " Research, dear, research. "

Or coaching
"I'm just seeing if there's any crack in your arsenal "

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