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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:49 am
by godsavetheking
It genuinely has no impact on me either way

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:33 am
by Thud
Well the name Surf Ranch is so dandy.

When I was working in the US one of the guys told me he was spending summer at a dude ranche. I was like "yeah thats cool mate, It's great you feel you can tell people that". Didn't realise all they did was ride horses.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:39 am
by Cranked
Drailed wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:52 pm
Cranked wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:52 pm
It reinvigorated my faith in that indefinable thing that is the soul of surfing. The ersatz bullshit of the WSL corporate group think is a demeaning
insult to the core fabric of what surfing really is.
You know what reinvigorated my faith in the soul of surfing, I took my 8ft single fin out and caught a stack of waves, was mesmerized on every onw of them, smiled myself stupid and didnt care for another thing in the world.
Well there's always that. I do it just about every day for 5 months a year and it never gets old.

And speaking of single fins, I've had the finbox replaced in my 6'8 Zot and I'm planning on taking all three Zots (6'1, 6'8, 7') to Bali next trip and spending the whole month riding them as singles.

They are definitely the fastest boards I've ridden as singles, I'm just having a few control problems though.

I'll try Geof's Gulwing, Cheyne's Starfin, a traditional dolphin single, and a 2+1

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:44 am
by Thud
A McCoy zealot stirring up a McCoy discussion. ^ Exhibit A your Honor. :P

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:20 am
by Beerfan
JJFs clip is pretty awesome. Still prefer the messiah hack though. JJF just makes it look so casually easy. Pool no contest

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:14 pm
by The Mighty Sunbird
That Knutson dude sure knows how to shoot.

KNUTSON!!

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:16 pm
by The Mighty Sunbird
So the supposed only screening of jjf’s clip had the same number of viewers as a WSL contest
So Jjf doesn’t need the WSL

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:31 pm
by Slobadan Madicubich
The Mighty Sunbird wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:16 pm
So the supposed only screening of jjf’s clip had the same number of viewers as a WSL contest
So Jjf doesn’t need the WSL
He needs a Khardashian

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:39 am
by Nick Carroll
The Mighty Sunbird wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:16 pm
So the supposed only screening of jjf’s clip had the same number of viewers as a WSL contest
So Jjf doesn’t need the WSL
All this really tells ya is that roughly the same people are watching both.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:04 am
by steve shearer
It tells you the income distribution in pro surfing is wildly, wildly skewed..........JJF is probably making more from a single endorsement (Hurley) than the entire back half of the Tour put together.

And that seems legitimate.

So, no, he doesn't need the Tour. He's set for life as a dual world Champ.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:12 am
by Nick Carroll
Well yeah, I guess I am thinking more about the WSL’s stated aim of expanding the pro tour viewership beyond the surfing core audience. An aim which as far as I can tell has so far completely avoided them.

They don’t really get that their actions are in constant comparison with both the history of the sport and with other current events in surf culture, events over which they have no control.

And really, nobody else is watching.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:04 am
by Beanpole
Well it's a bit like skiing from that regard. Apart from thrill seeking stuff like the jumps how wide an audience does downhill slalom have outside people who actually ski?
Now a lot more people ski than surf worldwide but I imagine it's not big in Mexico or South America.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:32 am
by alakaboo
Nick Carroll wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:39 am
The Mighty Sunbird wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:16 pm
So the supposed only screening of jjf’s clip had the same number of viewers as a WSL contest
So Jjf doesn’t need the WSL
All this really tells ya is that roughly the same people are watching both.
Really? They're very different products, appeal to different audiences and are consumed differently.

A 6 minute clip is something I can watch on my tea break at work, or while I'm waiting for a file to download, and send to my bros via social media. Although tbh I was a bit underwhelmed after the hype.
I imagine the audience is mainly competent surfers.

It is very different to setting aside 4 days and nights to watch the pool/tracking the weather in Portugal and trying to figure out what time it will run, sometime over the next fortnight.
Even when I worked from home I'd never see more than a few hours of Margs or Bells.
Just for starters, lots of workplaces ban streamed video.
And when it gets packaged into a 30s spot for the news it's going to a bunch of people who don't know anything about the sport.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:58 am
by foamy
I think 'the same of viewers as WSL' figure was for the supposedly one-off Facebook Live screening.
Legion wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:48 pm
I'm hopefully tuning in to Space tomorrow morning. Once only, never screened again!
Legion wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:35 am
Half an hour to go until it starts.
But yeah, it was put on Vimeo soon after the Facebook Live screening and it is over 200k viewings there.

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:00 am
by PeepeelaPew
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:37 am
by crabmeat thompson
Nick Carroll wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:39 am
The Mighty Sunbird wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:16 pm
So the supposed only screening of jjf’s clip had the same number of viewers as a WSL contest
So Jjf doesn’t need the WSL
All this really tells ya is that roughly the same people are watching both.
i didn't watch a single heat of the pool ... or any event bar jbay.

but i did watch JJF's and Dane's releases. both were good, but Noa's was pound for pound better than the pair of them.

Noa
Dane
JJF

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:55 am
by Cranked
Legion wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:00 am
I watched zero pool. I watched Space several times. So I'm definitely not the same people watching both.
#metoo several times

Re: Just general surfing stuff

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:06 am
by alakaboo
foamy wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:58 am
I think 'the same of viewers as WSL' figure was for the supposedly one-off Facebook Live screening.
Legion wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:48 pm
I'm hopefully tuning in to Space tomorrow morning. Once only, never screened again!
Legion wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:35 am
Half an hour to go until it starts.
But yeah, it was put on Vimeo soon after the Facebook Live screening and it is over 200k viewings there.
Yeah I got that, but I think it is similar numbers but a different set of viewers.
We need a Venn diagram.