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Lennox surf report 9.5ft with 4 stars.

Suiting up now.

I think I’m happy to concede that magic seaweed is absolutely hopeless for your stretch of coast

News flash!

GODSAVE CONCEDES!!!

Trev wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:44 am

godsavethequeen wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:59 pm

Steve. Once again, the msw Lennox forecast is for the swell on your nearest buoy. It tells you their guess for swell height and period and also swell direction. This is verifiable quite easily from actual buoy readings. I don’t know why it has a Lennox forecast that isn’t directly relevant to the actual spot. To look more comprehensive than it actually is perhaps? Who knows. The fact is though, it’s just a 60km out to sea or whatever swell forecast. Getting back to a question I asked about 100 years ago, if their swell forecasts - as verifiable by the buoys - are indeed accurate, does this information not have some value to the seasoned surf forecaster? Isn’t it doing at least some of the legwork for you?

Byron wave buoy from Manly Hydraulics Laboratory.

http://new.mhl.nsw.gov.au/data/realtime ... uoy-byrbow

And Coffs Harbour.

http://new.mhl.nsw.gov.au/data/realtime ... uoy-cofhow

You don’t really need any of this shit. You just use the BOM charts and ascat wind surface scans. Like why the hell anyone would ever look at Magic goddam seaweed anyway.

I think we should relapse into deep mysticism. I personally want to see a shaman shaking a pole with human skulls rattling as he chants and gestures to the moon, throwing down a flurry of human knuckles and divining the coming waves.

Standard $4.95/month, Pro level with genuine human sacrifice $9.95 www.divinewaves.com.au

Now you’re talking!

3-5ft.......very slow, inconsistent but some real screamers. Insanely crowded. Dropping swell.
Lot of waiting around for 1 wave sets.

I tried to play a patience game....the very best wave that came my way....right in the slot for...there was another guy waiting inside me. It was his wave by rights. I said, You got it X.... he said yep.
I turned and didn't even look at it.
He didn't catch it.
C'est la vie.

If thats the biggest problem I have to deal with , life is going alright.

Fcuk I hate that.

I'm very patient, very gentlemanly in the water. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt.
Still ridden millions of waves in this lifetime.

Hopefully X will do the same for me.

Wow what have I just read

Kilojoules for wave forecasting.. a product of period and open ocean swell height which generally get incorrectly combined if there's multiple swells from the same angle or similar periods.

It's jiberish and looking at Sydney today KJ's are 261 but south facing beaches are overhead, doesn't line up Cranked..

You'd just found a way to correlate the KJ to size on your coast which generally sees swells rise and fall without too much contamination.

I'd guarantee it would totally muck up the forecast for a large long-period groundswell which has fore-runners arriving a day before, followed by the bulk of the swell.

Leave the Kilojoules for those talking about the consumption and burning of energy.

right on Craig.

It’s overhead but weak
The kilojoules don’t lie

Caption is gold

SAsurfa wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:30 pm

Wow what have I just read

Kilojoules for wave forecasting.. a product of period and open ocean swell height which generally get incorrectly combined if there's multiple swells from the same angle or similar periods.

It's jiberish and looking at Sydney today KJ's are 261 but south facing beaches are overhead, doesn't line up Cranked..

You'd just found a way to correlate the KJ to size on your coast which generally sees swells rise and fall without too much contamination.

I'd guarantee it would totally muck up the forecast for a large long-period groundswell which has fore-runners arriving a day before, followed by the bulk of the swell.

Leave the Kilojoules for those talking about the consumption and burning of energy.

thank god you arrived to shut this nonsense down

SAsurfa wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:30 pm

Wow what have I just read

Kilojoules for wave forecasting.. a product of period and open ocean swell height which generally get incorrectly combined if there's multiple swells from the same angle or similar periods.

It's jiberish and looking at Sydney today KJ's are 261 but south facing beaches are overhead, doesn't line up Cranked..

You'd just found a way to correlate the KJ to size on your coast which generally sees swells rise and fall without too much contamination.

I'd guarantee it would totally muck up the forecast for a large long-period groundswell which has fore-runners arriving a day before, followed by the bulk of the swell.

Leave the Kilojoules for those talking about the consumption and burning of energy.

Why? They are useful. If they are not useful for you thats fine by me.

Here's a few points in reply though:

In regard to swells

1.There are usually a combination of various swells at any one time where I surf: WSW, SW, SSW, S and SE with periods from 6 to 22

1. I'm pretty sure the kJs are calculated from the swell height and period of the significant waves of the predominant swell, so saying the forecast kJs are incorrect is the same as saying the swell height and/or period for the predominant swell are incorrect.

In regard to kJs

1. Swells of various heights and periods can have the same energy (kJs)

2. As the swells move into shallow water their period and and height changes but their energy remains (largely) the same

3. The only advantage of being familiar with the kJs is that you don't have to know how each of the infinite combinations of swell height and period for a specific number of kJs presents as breaking waves at your local. If its the same number of kJs then it will produce very similar breaking waves.

Let it go mate.