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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by foamy » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:20 pm

The WSL drops this clip of a winning wave in Tatiana's exciting Rd 2 win.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wsl/status/1 ... 24/video/1

p.s. I'm not bagging women's surfing. It's just we are seeing what peak surfing looks like in poor waves. The harsher critics of the wave pool should perhaps be studying these clips.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by buddy » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:29 pm

Watch 80s footage of Occ or Tom Carroll in the same conditions and it's so much better than that.

Still shit to watch those conditions either way though.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by buddy » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:30 pm

Cranked wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:00 am
foamy wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:45 am
This is the video the WSL posted to announce that Caroline Marks won her US Open Rd 1 heat beating Sally and Bronte. This must be one of Caroline's best waves of the heat. I wonder if this is the type of thrills surfing will be offering Olympics viewers at Chiba.
https://mobile.twitter.com/wsl/status/1 ... 84/video/1
Oh shit, the commentary vs. the actuality.

I think surfers who pivot their turns instead of carving them should have points deducted.
How exactly would you perform a good carving turn in that dross?

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Cranked » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:07 pm

Buddy I'm not a pro surfer, I'd probably do it worse. You've already noted above that Occ or Tom Carroll would do far better.

But as you asked, and with the hindsight of viewing that footage, I would try for one good carved turn and a floater on the foam at the end, instead of the two that she did. That would harness what little power there was in that section to maximum effect.
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by buddy » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:20 pm

Cranked wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:07 pm
Buddy I'm not a pro surfer, I'd probably do it worse. You've already noted above that Occ or Tom Carroll would do far better.

But as you asked, and with the hindsight of viewing that footage, I would try for one good carved turn and a floater on the foam at the end, instead of the two that she did. That would harness what little power there was in that section to maximum effect.
Fair enough.
I feel there would have been no time for a carve + floater, and a carve would have looked weak in that wave anyway.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by foamy » Sat Aug 04, 2018 1:33 pm

Caroline Marks pivots on her backhand but is more carvey on her forehand. That's probably what most do.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by steve shearer » Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:55 pm

Caroline Marks has a very crook style.
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by alakaboo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:00 pm

How come you aren't doing the US open recaps, Steve?
Not holding enough oxy?

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by steve shearer » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:05 pm

I'm stretched just doing the CT's Boo, trying to cover QS's would be a bona fide way of going insane.
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by alakaboo » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:07 pm

Was thinking it might lead to some interesting writing, as you slowly unravelled Fear and Loathing style.

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by steve shearer » Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:12 pm

Don't worry there'll be an almighty unravelling.
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Well given you’re about to become a goatherd, it’s inevitable.
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by foamy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:25 am

Chas Smith waxed lyrical about surfing as a response to Dirk Ziff. It's a good read.

https://beachgrit.com/2018/08/dirk-ziff ... urnalists/

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Drailed » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:25 am

foamy wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:25 am
Chas Smith waxed lyrical about surfing as a response to Dirk Ziff. It's a good read.

https://beachgrit.com/2018/08/dirk-ziff ... urnalists/
Big contrast to the wankers at Stab writing on the same thing.
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by foamy » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:14 am

Stu Nettle has posted a comment on Swellnet. A pretty good summary of a surf journo's viewpoint of Dirk Ziff's speech.
http://www.swellnet.com/comment/578830#comment-578830


“The award itself was a sham, but hey, that's OK, the surf industry is full of equally appalling episodes.

But the sustained attack on journalists? Now that was a new development.

It seemed the whole speech was a set up to launch that grenade, but I cant help but feel it's gone off in Ziff's hands. He's gonna feel the shrapnel from this for a long time yet.

When ZoSea/WSL took over pro surfing back in 2013 the first thing they did was abruptly give all journalists the cold shoulder. We weren't part of their future. The news, they figured, would be created by their own in-house media team and distributed by social media. This dovetailed perfectly into the changing media landsscape.

WSL's social media team has been in a whirlwind ever since, you may have noticed this, however it's back at the source that the problems started. A lot of surfers didnt want whitewashed, 'hooray for everything', stories, and sought out the alternative channels - read: traditional surf outlets - for news. And if you can't get on the ground reporting, or you cant get surfer access, all of which was restricted by the WSL, then the gaps get filled somehow. Some journalists made an art of turning those 'gaps' into stories themselves.

So to cry foul about surf journalism five years after pissing every surf journalist off is odd....that's the polite way to put it.

Also, Dirk beats his chest about speaking truth to power: "Be tough. Call us out. Keep us honest." In 2014, I did just that in a three-part series that took eight months to research and write. No emotion, lies, or "foul-spirited attacks". All my stats were confirmed in a private call with the WSL themselves. For this Swellnet got banned from all WSL events. Collectively we became persona non grata, left off every communication from the WSL. For years afterward I relied on second-hand information forwarded by a colleague who hadn't worked in the surf industry for twenty years yet he was receiving mail from the WSL while we weren't.

So keeping the WSL honest? Fcuk off...

These days I can't be arsed poking and prodding the WSL, been there, done that, however I am cheering Chas Smith and the front that he's opened up.”

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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by Wyre » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:00 pm

Right on!
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Re: Just general surfing stuff

Post by steve shearer » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:17 pm

right on right on.
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