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Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:50 pm
by buddy
Thud wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:47 pm
Here's one for you. I think older (over 35) average surfers surf HPS like fish. Not moving enough (in the right way) , surfing flat, trimming and pretty much trying to cut back because they missed the best part of the wave with a slow pop. That's cool I guess, but why not just surf a fking fish!!
But that is user error not a flaw in the ability of the design to do a power cutty.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:53 pm
by Thud
Yes off topic. I've see lots of good surfers wiggly their bum and not rail surfing but back footing it. The tri is an homogeneous beast, it does everytime good but not one thing great ( reos and airs accepted)
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:57 pm
by buddy
And there's a lot of good surfers on them who engage the rail fully through the turn.
The shortened rail has made them not as good as back when a lot of people had a one board quiver of a 6'3.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:01 pm
by Thud
Still reckon the cutbacks look a bit piss weak in general on punters (me included) and are relegated to transition turns for the shit hot surfers.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:31 pm
by swvic
Ha, here's my old man take. I was on a twin regularly before Simon smacked the fcuk out of us with the thruster. Like near on everyone, I took to it and it changed my surfing by forcing me to stay closer to the pocket. Years later and there I was, surfing with a relatively newly acquired mate who, riding a thruster, has an exemplary cutback. He got the wave before on a good day. Paddling back out together, he commented that I do my turn in the section whereas he loves to run through it to generate speed for the cuttie. Both methods look good when executed well. For me, the within is for a thruster and running it out for a good cuttie suits the twin. On the days where a thruster is suited I love staying close, but the natural want of a twin to run forward is a perfect start for a good fast cutback
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:20 pm
by Thud
Prols right
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:02 am
by Beerfan
swvic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:31 pm
Ha, here's my old man take. I was on a twin regularly before Simon smacked the fcuk out of us with the thruster. Like near on everyone, I took to it and it changed my surfing by forcing me to stay closer to the pocket. Years later and there I was, surfing with a relatively newly acquired mate who, riding a thruster, has an exemplary cutback. He got the wave before on a good day. Paddling back out together, he commented that I do my turn in the section whereas he loves to run through it to generate speed for the cuttie. Both methods look good when executed well. For me, the within is for a thruster and running it out for a good cuttie suits the twin. On the days where a thruster is suited I love staying close, but the natural want of a twin to run forward is a perfect start for a good fast cutback
My Jd keel fish was insane for cutbacks, frontside and backhand. Fast and free. It's all I wanted to do on it, get mucho speed, mid face turn then bring it around as fast as I could. Bit kooky but I love fish for those turns
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:43 am
by channels
Thud wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:56 pm
channels wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:41 pm
Get someone to take a vid of you doing your best one and post it on here.
Let realsurf judge. Nick posted a surf ranch clip and I'm sure we were all encouraging and supportive.
You first. God touched a nerve. But of course I knew I would. Sensitive old blokes on thrusters being told they don't turn off the rail usually gets a bite. Lol
I live on the northern beaches so I'll keep an eye out for the tri fin with Channels. Won't be hard to spot. And your turns better be awesome cnt.
But just on this topic, if someone says a board design isn't as effective as another why do people start spazzing out?
Im stirring the pot of course. I ride a tri fin (xfc) but have been think a lot about cut backs of late. But surfed a twin on holidays and enjoyed the cuttie.
Nah, not touchy. I know I'm a kook.
Couple of things contribute here though. More boards with less curve (think Hypto, quiver killer etc) make it easier to take off and go fast and straight but rail turns harder to do well. Same with the trend to shorter boards smaller sweet spot to get your feet right. My kook thoughts anyway.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:08 am
by Thud
I wasn't saying we were touchy Channels. I was thinking of a good mate of mine who rides his HPS like a fish.
My god if someone gave me the choice of providing footage of my surfing to an audience of the visually impaired or stick my balls in a vice I'm heading to the toolshed every time.
Still, the cuttie seems a littke dead as a statement as surfing has moved on. Vale MP.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:31 am
by channels
Like the floater. I did a backhand floater last week, couldnt remember the last time i saw one.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 am
by Thud
channels wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:31 am
Like the floater. I did a backhand floater last week, couldnt remember the last time i saw one.
Slater used to do the most outrageous floaters
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:35 am
by Cranked
I'm quite content doing turns, turns and then more turns. There's a million different ways to do them, pump in between, and link them on an ever changing wave face, the bigger the better.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:40 pm
by Thud
From my reading I think you ride the odd McCoy. So you're talking about your other boards when turning right?
Jokes
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:02 pm
by JaM71
Thud wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:40 pm
From my reading I think you ride the odd McCoy. So you're talking about your other boards when turning right?
Jokes
Oh f$&k! Lookout, here come the McCoy zealots. Train wreck impending.
Are fins the most important part of a good/great cutback board?
I think rails play an important role myself
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:13 pm
by Beerfan
JaM71 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:02 pm
Thud wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:40 pm
From my reading I think you ride the odd McCoy. So you're talking about your other boards when turning right?
Jokes
Oh f$&k! Lookout, here come the McCoy zealots. Train wreck impending.
Are fins the most important part of a good/great cutback board?
I think rails play an important role myself
Been taking my jd out a bit lately. Finest railed board I own and really like how sensitive it is.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:27 pm
by Cranked
Thud wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:40 pm
From my reading I think you ride the odd McCoy. So you're talking about your other boards when turning right? :
I'm just gonna copy this to the McCoy riders web site. Your life won't be worth living now.
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 pm
by JaM71
Good on ya beery, I remember when you first got that board and posted the photos. It looks amazing.
Keel fish go great in points so do bonzers and one of my best cutbacks ever was at a 3ft beachie on a single fin.
Fins are important but really it's about good you feel or as you get older how creaky you feel!
Re: Just general surfing stuff
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:30 am
by Thud
Cranked wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:27 pm
Thud wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:40 pm
From my reading I think you ride the odd McCoy. So you're talking about your other boards when turning right? :
I'm just gonna copy this to the McCoy riders web site. Your life won't be worth living now.
Please don't.
