Well, you can all be comforted in the knowledge that there is to be one less surfer in your line ups. I was considering the move to Sydney for work and surf however after spending the past three days here I have come to the conclusion that...
YOU ARE ALL INSANE... nutso... trippers...
The cars on the road, the crowds on the beach, the difficulty in getting a decent body bash without bashing into bodies both on the beach and in the water(bondi) let alone an easy going surf.
Simply driving from said point to said point is exhausting (Northern beaches)and one then has to reverse the process to get home - it really is all consuming.
Im sure you get used to it, but its not something i want to get used to , not right now anyway..
Luv yas all
driving away tomorrow...cheerio
(i can hear the applause in the background from you all already.. "on your bike matey, thats the way...see ya' ) haha
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barstardos
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It gets down to this - If you have to live in a major capital city based on your line of work, then sydney is the only major capital on this side of the planet with half decent waves on a regular basis. No contest
Melbourne - no surf
Adelaide - Ditto
Perth - Ditto
Brisbane - Ditto
Singapore - ditto
Jakarta - Ditto
Kuala Lumpur - Ditto
etc. etc.
Melbourne - no surf
Adelaide - Ditto
Perth - Ditto
Brisbane - Ditto
Singapore - ditto
Jakarta - Ditto
Kuala Lumpur - Ditto
etc. etc.
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Bananabender
Ahhh, the old hook turn Balders. Gotta love that one. Try and explain that to an international visitor !!!!baldric wrote:Melbourne.....now there's surf city for ya....and geez...no Melbournites are up 'emselves eh....and geez they're great drivers too....left lane to turn right, no crunt ever gettin' in the left lane, caravan city....and don't get me started on 'em bein' completely dark on Sydney and their "Opera House/Harbour envy" and the farken hideous attempts to rival it like the entertainment centre and Federation Square abortions....the only good things about Melbourne are:murrum wrote:...If you want a big city - move to Melbourne, no immediate surf, but less crowded quality not far at all. And the city is completely livable.
a) the restaraunts
b) the Hume and Princes Hwys that lead to Sydney
completely liveable?.....nah that's a fargen hoax....completely lamentable is more like it....
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thermalben
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I suppose it depends on where you live in Sydney though - what's the difference between (a) living in Melbourne and being 1 hour from Torquay or the Mornington Peninsula (depending on which side of town you live) or (b) living an hour of city traffic away from Bondi or Manly?barstardos wrote:It gets down to this - If you have to live in a major capital city based on your line of work, then sydney is the only major capital on this side of the planet with half decent waves on a regular basis. No contest
Can think of 5 reasons for a keen surfer to live in Sydney.
1. Your parents do and you're too young to leave
2. Education
3. Work/career
4. Looking for or staying with a partner
5. Your kids' education
If none of the above apply and you are hard core, there are lots of better places to surf.
My opinion is that if you're more than 5 minutes from an everyday break, you're going to miss out. Tryed the Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth options for very brief durations, with the hour drives (2 hour return)to just check it, and it's not for me.
If you do need a city, there's also Wollongong, Newcastle, Geelong, Gold Coast, most NZ cities, several in Sth Afrika, and even more options if you want to speak Spanish, Portuguese or American, or downsize to many island states.
1. Your parents do and you're too young to leave
2. Education
3. Work/career
4. Looking for or staying with a partner
5. Your kids' education
If none of the above apply and you are hard core, there are lots of better places to surf.
My opinion is that if you're more than 5 minutes from an everyday break, you're going to miss out. Tryed the Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth options for very brief durations, with the hour drives (2 hour return)to just check it, and it's not for me.
If you do need a city, there's also Wollongong, Newcastle, Geelong, Gold Coast, most NZ cities, several in Sth Afrika, and even more options if you want to speak Spanish, Portuguese or American, or downsize to many island states.
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Chonie
The thing is many work close enough that they might take their board to work if conditions are good and do an arvo session (depending on their workplace and travel arrangements of course). Or you do an early and just go straight to the office. I know people who work and live all over sydney that do an early.murrum wrote:eggs-fuggensactly themalben.
what proportion of the 4mil in sydney are within 1 hour of quality, relatively uncrowded waves with a bit of juice. Id hazard a guess at about less than 10% live within 0.5hrs of relatively average crowded beachies that occaisionally turn out classic crowded days - u only have to read some of the other threads on this forum to gauge the angst of the place...
Melb is waaaay more livable, hands down - for a start, public transport works, the motorways arent glorified carparks, heaps of great places to go out, and culture...The place is a veritable petri dish.
The closest thing sydney has to culture is a bunch of scantily clad men and women parading up Oxford street, and the Mardi Gras as well...
Also I think your percentages aren't so great. The density of housing is greater closer to the coast. Sure there are units in the western suburbs but by far the greatest concentration of apartment living happens within 30 minutes of the coast in sydney, without a doubt.
Plus if you're a grom you can easily access the ocean after school, which is what most of us living in sydney did growing up. I'd imagine it would be a challenge to get out on the Peninsula after school unless your parents came home from work to take you or you have a single income family and one parent is happy to drive you. I can't see that happening much. In Sydney there are schools close enough to the surf that surfing is a school sport for many kids. Many groms can go surfing after school and be home before their parents get home from work! Does that happen in Melbourne?
All of this of course is part of the problem, all of this combined with the 2nd fastest growing population in Australia means surfing sydney is a pain on weekends in summer. (In winter during large swells it's actually not much of a problem). But here's the surprising thing that you seem to have overlooked, the coast actually extends beyond sydney! On the weekends we can drive a similiar distance as Phillip Island or Mornington and be surfing uncrowded, great breaks and warmer water than you can from Melbourne. I'm not going to mention where I go but every weekend this summer I've surfed a spot just over an hour from Sydney that had a maximum of 3 people on it when it was most crowded.
As far as culture goes, it's not my style. If I wanted culture I'd be more at home with Byron than Melbourne.
I don't know why everyone whinges about the crowds in Sydney... I reckon it's a hell of a lot easier to get a wave in Sydney then somewhere like the Goldcoast where there is a much larger surfing population.
sure there are places that are always going to be bad...i.e manly, but there are a handful of places on the northern beaches that can be surfed with a small crowd.
personally i am happy to forego quality and go somewhere less favourable but with less people
sure there are places that are always going to be bad...i.e manly, but there are a handful of places on the northern beaches that can be surfed with a small crowd.
personally i am happy to forego quality and go somewhere less favourable but with less people
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