Head first into the sand....

[spongeInside]

MRI results just came in after pestering them every day since the scans...

Doesn't look that bad at all.

MRI Conclusion:

• Microtrabecular impaction fractures without cortical disruption at T3 and T4
• Prominent central canal of the spinal cord at T3
• No signal abnormality within the cord
• No central canal or neural exit foraminal stenosis

Translation; the fractures were of the underlying structures within the bone,they did not disturb the structural surfaces of the bone ( which is what we normally call a broken bone.) that' s fairly good. Could be more aptly described as a bone bruise.
The second item I ask is a word left out here?
The MRI has not detected a change in the characteristics of the spinal cord!
The channel in which the spinal cord lies is not narrowed, nor is the holes where the spinal nerves exit into the body That is good !

The deep muscles and tissue that surrounds the spine and cord will still be swollen and that will put pressure on nerves and cause pain,which has probably subsided somewhat ( I hope) the bone bruising will take time to heal too.
Have some physical therapy not any sort of Dougal kind, if he edits one of my posts like that again I'll use that particular technique in the Gif adjust him. It will give him Retravision .

Appreciate how lucky you are, that particular injury at its worst would do you horrors

Thanks otway, I owe you a beer (or three). You told me more than the doc did yesterday, although I did get the general feeling that it wasn't too bad, but I should avoid any sort of strenuous activity for 6 weeks. I'm thinking I should be good to go by next week, as the pain has subsided somewhat, it feels now like a stiff neck and a slightly dodgy back (which I've had before). Will see if I can get to the physio during the week as that should speed things up a bit too.

[eel]

And Mainstream Doctors say Chiropractors belong in the Charletan category along with Homeopaths and Reiki Therapists.

[spongeInside]

What's the gun for spongey? Headaches getting too bad? General shame of being a boogie boarder? Or combination of both?

to end things should I get to your age and still be stuffing around on forums

[Skipper]

oh spongy, you ingrate you.

[Trev]

What's the gun for spongey? Headaches getting too bad? General shame of being a boogie boarder? Or combination of both?

to end things should I get to your age and still be stuffing around on forums

That's pretty funny really.

[spongeInside]

oh spongy, you ingrate you.

didn't think he was looking for a serious response after blabbering unrelated cr@p in this thread... and all after a whopping 3 bottles of verdi

[spongeInside]

Is the gun loaded spongey? Do it now. But can I make suggestion? Put the barrel at the back of your neck and take out the recalcitrant vertebrae first. That'll learn 'em.

It's still in the shop Ron, so you're out of luck. Takes 28 days for the PTA to clear.

[black duck]

Is the gun loaded spongey? Do it now. But can I make suggestion? Put the barrel at the back of your neck and take out the recalcitrant vertebrae first. That'll learn 'em.

It's still in the shop Ron, so you're out of luck. Takes 28 days for the PTA to clear.

Why are you buying a revolver hand gun? You live in the sticks or do you just want to kill people?
How bad can the bandicoots be?
What do you need a gun like that for, besides ridding the world of the subaru set?

[spongeInside]

Is the gun loaded spongey? Do it now. But can I make suggestion? Put the barrel at the back of your neck and take out the recalcitrant vertebrae first. That'll learn 'em.

It's still in the shop Ron, so you're out of luck. Takes 28 days for the PTA to clear.

Why are you buying a revolver hand gun? You live in the sticks or do you just want to kill people?
How bad can the bandicoots be?
What do you need a gun like that for, besides ridding the world of the subaru set?

for something different to my semi-autos, also to allow me to compete in the service match comps.

[Grooter]

And Mainstream Doctors say Chiropractors belong in the Charletan category along with Homeopaths and Reiki Therapists.

That's because they can't explain how people who get regular chiro generally live longer, have a healthy body and are very mobile well into old age.

Without the need for surgery or drugs. They fcuken hate it.

My missus worked at a chiro clinic for nearly 10 years. Results and proof was right in front of her every day. We still see the chiro regularly with the kids, no bone cracking either.

[otway1949]

And Mainstream Doctors say Chiropractors belong in the Charletan category along with Homeopaths and Reiki Therapists.

The great quote of the They !
You quote as a cohort a class of doctors who are entirely diverse in their opinions!
That is the refuge of a charlatan and as slippery as an EEL, what is your opinion or do you like so many base your opinions on hearsay?
BTW this subject gets discussed ad nauseam by all and sundry divided into about three camps, the yea sayers and nay sayers based on their experiences ( that is a fair call ) and those that base their ideas on regurgitated and unfounded opinions.

You will note that I do promote chiropractic in addressing this but offering general advice around the injury!

So what is your opinion eel and what advice would you offer?

[daryl]

Was pleased to agree with otway's interpretation, he's a specialist, whatever you like to think.

[eel]

And Mainstream Doctors say Chiropractors belong in the Charletan category along with Homeopaths and Reiki Therapists.

The great quote of the They !
You quote as a cohort a class of doctors who are entirely diverse in their opinions!
That is the refuge of a charlatan and as slippery as an EEL, what is your opinion or do you like so many base your opinions on hearsay?
BTW this subject gets discussed ad nauseam by all and sundry divided into about three camps, the yea sayers and nay sayers based on their experiences ( that is a fair call ) and those that base their ideas on regurgitated and unfounded opinions.

You will note that I do promote chiropractic in addressing this but offering general advice around the injury!

So what is your opinion eel and what advice would you offer?

Just for the record I'm Pro Chiro. My post needs to be read with a sarcastic tone of voice.

My reasoning for the post was an article on the Sunday Telegraph detailing Macquarie University dropping its Chiropractic Degree in a bid to and I quote,"Weed out quackery"

A common accusation from the alternate medicine community is that big pharma is actively suppressing them & falsely disproving their methodology. However anyone who has had their twisted little spine straightened could conclude that at least in this instance that this is the case.

To my advice although probably only asked in Sarcasm would be to go to Sportslab in Drummoyne and ask for Pedro, I can personally attest to his skill level.

[Kunji]

I have had a lot of experience with chiropractic work on my neck, lower spine and shoulder with different practitioners at different times. I found that it never did anything for me despite countless visits.

RIP Robbie Basho

[chrisb]

I have had a lot of experience with chiropractic work on my neck, lower spine and shoulder with different practitioners at different times. I found that it never did anything for me despite countless visits.

RIP Robbie Basho

Bloody hell. Robbie Basho's chiropractic experience was worse ......... a lot worse.

[8]

I reckon good chiropractic care has it's place alongside conventional medicine. Have had a few significant problems with my back (herniated lumbar disc w/spondy and a broken coccyx), on both occasions the GP and orthopaedic surgeon recommended I go straight to surgery - artificial disc replacement and removal of coccyx respectively.

Chiro said don't even think about it until you have tried alternatives - there is no going back from surgery and you might end up worse than when you started. Got treated for a while, about a month each time then carried on with rehab. Fine now, fully mobile can run, surf etc etc. Just have to keep up with yoga and core stability stuff, watch my posture all the time.

IMHO the problem with chiropractic is that what they do can be so powerful - if you get a good one it can be great but if you get a dud one they can f8ck you up or just waste your time...and there are plenty of dud ones out there. That and some of them regard themselves as mystic new age healers and mix all sorts of far reached alternative therapies in to the mix

[otway1949]

IMHO the problem with chiropractic is that what they do can be so powerful - if you get a good one it can be great but if you get a dud one they can f8ck you up or just waste your time...and there are plenty of dud ones out there. That and some of them regard themselves as mystic new age healers and mix all sorts of far reached alternative therapies in to the mix

That is one of the best statements said in this discussion, mix wank with Chiro when they talk evangelical or pseudo religious stuff , I think then they are dangerous. Chiropractic is a choice of treatment that like all treatments has its risks and benefits!
Only heard about the Macquarie Uni thing via this forum, a major mistake IMO is chiropractors trying to be doctors! There are issues that are exclusive province of medicine, chiropractic deals with issues that can be dealt with by a number of modalities, I just think chiropractic in some circumstances is a better choice!

I do however think that any practitioner of any form of healing who cannot explain to you in plain funking English the realities of your condition is not doing anyone any favors. Speak English tell the plain blunt truth and outline the choices!

[daryl]

Said it before. A surfer workmate died of cancer, it had gone from the nasal part to his spine, his back. The girls at work sent him to a chiro, he was manipulated before seeing a cancer doctor about his back. Just saying the order of events was arse backwards, I'd been out with him on a fine sunny morn, at garie beach, he got a barrel on his longboard, then just after that told me about seeing a big bronzey under his board, a pretty big one, then BOOM fcucken dead in weeks.

Thing is, it was clear that he was used to being out in mid day sun
also, that the chiro isn't first port of call for a bad back, imagine getting your back manipulated when there's cancer in the spine. So avoidable, it was treatable.
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