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Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:01 am
by S4MS
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nutes.html
German 'free diver' has apparently entered the Guinness World Records by holding his breath under water for more than 20 minutes
10 seconds and I'm scratching for the surface, starting to get desperate. Can do 2 minutes sitting at a table though (well I could last time I tried)

How much is it mind over matter - I mean why, after a hold down, can't a surfer just relax and lazily pop up after 20 seconds or so?

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:19 am
by saucy gibbon
you need to find a big rock and run to NZ with it

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:58 am
by S4MS
Obviously the situations are markedly different:

Getting ragdolled after a wipeout after a hard paddle
vs
Sitting at a kitchen table
vs
Semi-concious trance state in a tank

But do they justify a difference of

10 sec
vs
22min

That's 130 x as long!

Guess the interesting thing is what he could do in a hold-down which leads to the question, what could us mere mortals do in a hold down given his training/mind control/tricks etc

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:05 pm
by swvic
Reckon it is a lot to do with mind state. I did swimming and breath holding exercises before I went to Indo. 1st go down and I thought I was going to die. If you're mind is strong, that's where the benefit lies. Don't think mine is

How about the guy at Cloudbreak last year? 2 wave hold down. Can't remember who it was, but pretty sure it was one of those heavy duty Hawaiian watermen

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:08 pm
by aaronn
saucy gibbon wrote:you need to find a big rock and run to NZ with it
finally, a witty comment @ these forums!
permission to quote with siggy ?

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:14 pm
by saucy gibbon
the only time i am ever accused of wit is when it starts with an F

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:19 pm
by aaronn
f is for funny ?

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:25 pm
by Animal_Chin
saucy gibbon wrote:the only time i am ever accused of wit is when it starts with an F
Christ! He's on a roll!

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:34 pm
by saucy gibbon
Animal_Chin wrote:
saucy gibbon wrote:the only time i am ever accused of wit is when it starts with an F
Christ! He's on a roll!
Do you have Roman ancestory ?

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:56 pm
by Beanpole
A lot of old time big wave riders used to practice with rocks if the old surf movies are anything to go by.

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:10 pm
by Animal_Chin
saucy gibbon wrote:
Animal_Chin wrote:
saucy gibbon wrote:the only time i am ever accused of wit is when it starts with an F
Christ! He's on a roll!
Do you have Roman ancestory ?
Huh? Lost me there....

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:27 pm
by marcus
swvic wrote:Reckon it is a lot to do with mind state. I did swimming and breath holding exercises before I went to Indo. 1st go down and I thought I was going to die. If you're mind is strong, that's where the benefit lies. Don't think mine is

How about the guy at Cloudbreak last year? 2 wave hold down. Can't remember who it was, but pretty sure it was one of those heavy duty Hawaiian watermen
an ausie bodyboarder

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:07 pm
by swvic
Maybe it was Chopes, then. Didn't know about the bodyboarder

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:10 pm
by steve shearer
It was Dave Wassel who got the 2 wave hold down.

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:26 am
by The Mighty Sunbird
A surfer who is also an anaesthetist told me he tested himself with an oximeter.
At one minute of breath holding he felt like his lungs were bursting: but the oxygen saturation in his blood was still 95%.
I guess CO2 accumulation makes you want to breathe. But you are safe.
So yeah, its about relaxing and going with it. A one minute holddown is pretty rare in Sydney beachies.

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:33 am
by aaronn
S4MS wrote:
How much is it mind over matter - I mean why, after a hold down, can't a surfer just relax and lazily pop up after 20 seconds or so?
besause, roughly, one cubic meter of sea water weighs 1 tonne

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:37 am
by Karlos
Aaron, aside from misspelling 'because', I fear you're becoming a bit too lucid.

Please desist.

Re: Breath Holding

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:01 pm
by Scroty
Animal_Chin wrote:
saucy gibbon wrote:
Animal_Chin wrote:
saucy gibbon wrote:the only time i am ever accused of wit is when it starts with an F
Christ! He's on a roll!
Do you have Roman ancestory ?
Huh? Lost me there....
I'm guessing a catholic reference to "body of Christ" maybe. Again, pretty funny.