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ajohnsen wrote:Nick, do you lead the life of Riley?

Who is this Riley person?

Cranked wrote:For instance, Wilkes reckon they track a bit, so recommends smaller fins, especially in the base

They track when the rocker isn't balanced against the concave; when this happens the water won't release throughout the rail line and will get a bit trapped under the lip of the rail in parts, which sorta pins the board on a straight line.

It's a sign that your mate needs to work a bit more on the design.

You definitely don't need as much fin volume on a super concave, just like with six-channels, the lift portion of a fin's function is provided by the concave. What you do need from fins in a super concave is feel. I dunno about the base thing, like one of the best fins I've ever used with MC super concaves is the small C-Drive template, which is mostly base (RCJ uses these fins on his megawave towboards). What the C-Drive does have is a lot of feel thanks to all the different little curves and shit.

I find throwing the shaka is a great way to mortify my teenaged offspring.

And because I live on an island, it's totes authentic.

And, I refuse to be limited to only small airs, so no long single deep concave for me.

The Sunbird: always a rebel.

Nick Carroll wrote:

ajohnsen wrote:Nick, do you lead the life of Riley?

Who is this Riley person?

Well, not Derek, although I'm sure he's living the life.

if James Dean threw shakas, he would almost be me

Thanks Nick, I'll see how it goes.

Cranked, I switched from a surftech lazor zap to the lost weekend warrior, which has a deep single concave and a wide tail. I'm not sure how much of a 'dome' is on the zap - I never measured it - but it seems like the bottom contours of the surftechs were less extreme than McCoy shaped boards. It wouldn't surprise me if it's essentially flat.

Anyway, using the same fins in both boards (fibreglass pancho sullivan futures), the zap is incredibly loose but feels sticky. To get it moving you have to squirt it forwards with your back foot, like tic-tacking a skateboard up a hill. The weekend warrior is stiffer, even surfing it right back off the kicktail on the pad, but has more of its own natural speed (the rocker is quite a bit flatter than the zap, of course) and you can surf it more from the middle of the board if you want to.

The main difference in feel between the two is that while the zap (and other McCoys I've ridden) is dependable through turns but predictable (not necessarily in a bad way), the weekend warrior accelerates more. A couple of times in recent surfs I've gone for a bread and butter closeout re-entry with my normal turn pressure and found myself a foot or two above the lip. I don't fully understand how it surfs yet but it's got me excited almost to the point of flipping shakas at strangers

Nick Carroll wrote:(to er)
well as long as they live on islands it's OK.

Otherwise they are wretched perpetuators of a cross cultural mockery that makes white boy rock'n'roll look as original as hip-hop. isn't that right GSTQ.

GSTQ?

Australia, world's largest island....

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Nah, they're more like those half airs that you do when you kinda convince yourself you're close to making it but in reality you've ended up laying back in the whitewater, parallell to the beach and with nowhere to go but down, usually tweaking your groin in the process. I think that twenty years ago I could probably have learned how to do airs properly on this board but I'm fucked if I'm risking near certain injury by trying now

JET01 wrote:

Nick Carroll wrote:(to er)
well as long as they live on islands it's OK.

Otherwise they are wretched perpetuators of a cross cultural mockery that makes white boy rock'n'roll look as original as hip-hop. isn't that right GSTQ.

GSTQ?

Australia, world's largest island....

Oh come on. Australia's only a pretend island. It's a fcuken continent. You don't throw shakas on a continent.

godsave, learning airs is for when you are under 18 and surfing every day. Manage an accidental half-one if you must! You know, the way people convince themselves they got a barrel! but for fcuk's sake don't actually pursue it.

Continental Shakas are a definite no-no

Tasmanian shakas?

Middle Island shakas must be ok. There's little penguins and Maremmas

everyone on bribie island is throwing shakas left, right and centre. and rightly so ...

Swedish surfers throwing shakas is a absolute f@ck!ng no no.

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