Ask Carroll

[Nick Carroll]

well it strikes me that just shows what a tough game national politics is.

it's a piece of cake to stand outside that tent yelling the Truth As You See It, it's completely another thing to go into the tent with all the animals.

In person Peter is still the courteous, intelligent and seemingly forceful character he appeared to be in his Oils days, I think he must have met his match and more in Canberra.

[Beanpole]

Chewed up by the Party Machine.....and spat out. Should have stayed Green. He was never one for nuanced political manouvres.

[Davros]

yeh my old neighbour used to run Greenpeace for a while and was disappointed for him, I think a lot of people had hoped he'd make positive change rather than be a populist Rudd/Gillard puppet, but if you watched the Killing Season, Paul Keating would have had trouble operating in that cluster f@ck.

Side note: Vale Bronnie.

[Drailed]

Can you imagine the corrupt wolfpit you enter. Good intentions are absolutely not welcome I would imagine.

[rmb]

Nick,
"Somethin's in the water and if I gotta brown nose for some gold then i'd rather be a bum than a motherfuckin baller".
Can you relate to this.

[Beanpole]

I think he was accepted as a potential vote winner who could be manipulated. Both sides do it. Angry Anderson anyone?

[Davros]

He's bald I guess

[ctd]

I'm told (by people who work with them) that there are three kinds of politicians

- stupid
- stupid and mean
- intelligent and mean

The fourth, intelligent and compassionate, rarely last, although there is the odd one that does. Generally they either sit on the back benches and meander around in ineffectiveness, become independents (and generally ineffective unless they hold the balance or power) or just leave politics having discovered their ineffectiveness. You need to be mean to succeed, basically. Its not a co operative place where everyone is working towards the same ends, even within a party.

There aren't any stupid and compassionate ones, because they never get elected (well, maybe a few senators cough greens cough).

However, don't assume that the stupid and mean ones aren't successful, they can be very successful (and at times make it to be ministers). Having a fixed world view that fails to take into account reality and ignoring any opposing facts, and being mean at the same time, is a great way to succeed.

Being just stupid is useful because you are a vote for someone else in the party room but will never challenge. Its the same as hiring staff who will never be better than you, because it makes you look good.

[Davros]

Blonde?

[Nick Carroll]

Nick,
"Somethin's in the water and if I gotta brown nose for some gold then i'd rather be a bum than a **** baller".
Can you relate to this.

I do not know what the fcuk you are talking about.

[el rancho]

What a fruitcake

[ctd]

Blonde?

Sorry - I edited my comment... I asked Peter Garret's hair colour at uni because I played cricket with one of Garret's uni college mates.

Yes, long and blonde.

[rmb]

The line is out of a Kendrick Lamar song.
I will rephrase it for you Nick, Would you prefer to be broke rather than brownnose, crawl suck cock etc and be rich?
Can you relate to this line or anyone you know?

[rmb]

What a fruitcake

The line most likely would relate to you rancho at a guess you would be the one sucking cock for cash though.

[Cranked]

I am not sure there is much choice in it though, like do you choose who to fall in love with? On some level perhaps. But there's plenty of examples of people falling in love even when it is insanely inappropriate. I myself have experienced this.

Who was he?

[Nick Carroll]

The line is out of a Kendrick Lamar song.
I will rephrase it for you Nick, Would you prefer to be broke rather than brownnose, crawl suck cock etc and be rich?
Can you relate to this line or anyone you know?

It seems like the sort of thing you think when you are about 19 years old.

[Nick Carroll]

I am not sure there is much choice in it though, like do you choose who to fall in love with? On some level perhaps. But there's plenty of examples of people falling in love even when it is insanely inappropriate. I myself have experienced this.

Who was he?

She, cranked.

You're not really getting what I said there.

[lostman]

I can't believe Michelle Phillips was let through to the keeper??