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ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by mical » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:49 pm

From the ASP site.

ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Round 1: 12 three-man heats, 1st advances to Round 3, 2nd and 3rd to Round 2
Round 2: 12 man-on-man heats, 1st to Round 3, 2nd is Equal 25th place
Round 3: 12 man-on-man heats, 1st to Round 4, 2nd is Equal 13th place
Round 4: Four 3-man heats, 1st advances to Quarterfinals, 2nd and 3rd to Round 5
Round 5: Four man-on-man heats, 1st advances to Quarterfinals, 2nd is Equal 9th
Quarterfinals: Four man-on-man heats, 1st advances to Semifinals, 2nd is Equal 5th
Semifinals: Two man-on-man heats, 1st advances to Finals, 2nd is Equal 3rd
Final: One man-on-man heat, 1st and 2nd

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by Quangers » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:02 pm

Sounds weird, but I like the two mini repecharge rounds. No more whinging hopefully.

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by steve shearer » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:18 am

awesome.
I know Carroll thinks it's weird but the architect of this new format Pritamo Ahrendt is a Suffolk Park boy who knows high performance surfing.
Rd 4 will become known as the performance highlight of the event.
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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by longbum » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:27 am

looks good to me.

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by black duck » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:26 pm

I thought one of the main purposes of the revised format was to condense the timing to max 3 days to fit with swell durations.

Werd is that this new format pushes the comp timing to 3.5 days, with the vague chance of 3 days if conditions are perfect and they bust their arses from dawn till dark.

While the format looks good, looks like they may have compromised on one of the main parameters. Baby and bathwater?
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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by longbum » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:27 pm

63 heats to 54. yep looks like more than 3 days.........

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by Nick Carroll » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:40 pm

steve shearer wrote:I know Carroll thinks it's weird
no i don't! I like it a lot.

http://www.surfinglife.com.au/news/asl- ... m-revealed

I didn't like the one they were thinking of using before.

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by Nick Carroll » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:45 pm

black duck wrote:I thought one of the main purposes of the revised format was to condense the timing to max 3 days to fit with swell durations.

Werd is that this new format pushes the comp timing to 3.5 days, with the vague chance of 3 days if conditions are perfect and they bust their arses from dawn till dark.

While the format looks good, looks like they may have compromised on one of the main parameters. Baby and bathwater?
Well here is a little Secret.

Some, well most, no let's just say all of the event franchisees do not like the idea of a much shorter event. It shortens the time they'll be able to draw the world's attention.

So there was a fine line to draw here. This system cuts the likely event time average to 3.5 from 4.5 days, but it wasn't a straightforward pick 'cause the events were reluctant to cut the time down.

They resisted this one a bit, but they'd have really kicked up their heels at a system that cuts events down to 2 or 2.5 days.

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by steve shearer » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:32 pm

Agree with your article NC.

The pyschological impact of blowing down performance doors in RD 4 against fancied opponents will do a lot to determine the public's assessment of the validity of the World Title.
And make an emotional impact on judges that will be hard to ignore in a sport where perception is everything.
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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by mustkillmulloway » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:08 pm

Nick Carroll wrote:
They resisted this one a bit, but they'd have really kicked up their heels at a system that cuts events down to 2 or 2.5 days.

explains why most surfers couldn't give a toss about the pro circuit :idea:

it's run suit companys, not the surfers or punters

2.5 days ...ffs

who really would be buggered sit glued too the tv watch a full two half days of pro surfing :?:

that would equate too 2 days watching two guys sit out the back doing nothin and 6 hours of actual surfing :idea:

pro surfing isssssssssssssssssssss boring

p.s the eddie event is the way run a comp imo
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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by Nick Carroll » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:05 pm

localbogan. Pritamo Ahrendt has been judging top end ASP events for over 10 years, including every world championship deciding event over that period. He is a highly skilled surfer himself with a long term commitment to the tour's performance level. Judging and surfing is in his blood; his dad is a big part of Surfing NSW's Far North Coast branch and has been judging events himself for many years.

This system bears little resemblance to what you showed me some time ago, it's carefully structured to boost the back end of an event and informed very much by Pritamo's many years of both surfing time and judging time.

I really reckon you need to let this go.

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by mustkillmulloway » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:14 pm

um, it's also mega boring waiting twenty six years between events :roll:

hello....hello pro tour...are u still out there :idea:

less events ok....strung out over a million months=

boring

p.s nick :lol: :arrow: Pritamo Ahrendt

your takin the piss, ( i can't find any refrence too him...or pretty much any judge on the asp site :roll: )

no one from the nth coast oz has a name like that :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by localbogan » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:49 am

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by crabmeat thompson » Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:00 am

Seriously, how many people - unless your job is in media - follow the ASP?

I could not give a rat's arse ... Each year the guys on the tour -'cept maybe Fanning - act more and more like entitled dickheads. There is nothing about any of these guys, their life, and their surfing which I can relate to.

Does that make me a bad surfer? Hardly.
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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by Nick Carroll » Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:31 am

^^jeez I dunno Braithy, the last webcast event (JBay) pulled figures that were off the chart. Like half a million unique users. Plus FuelTV pulls 240,000 viewers for their broadcast of the same stuff, it's probably their single best rating show.

Given this, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that more surfers than ever before in the sport's history are watching and paying attention to the top end of the world tour. Of all the subjects raised in online surf website reporting, pro tour happenings invariably draw the biggest reader response from the widest readership space (Australians, Brazilians, Americans, Europeans etc).

Of course it also seems to draw the most latent rage -- though that often seems to be linked to people's opinions of the surf industry more than their opinions of the pros themselves.

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Re: ASP World Tour 36-Man Format

Post by Shane Peel » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:46 pm

Braithy wrote:Seriously, how many people - unless your job is in media - follow the ASP?

I could not give a rat's arse ... Each year the guys on the tour -'cept maybe Fanning - act more and more like entitled dickheads. There is nothing about any of these guys, their life, and their surfing which I can relate to.

Does that make me a bad surfer? Hardly.
Hey Braithy,
Nothing makes you a bad surfer (unless you drop in heaps for no reason :D ) I have little to nothing to do with the surf media and I love the tour webcasts. If you connect the computer to a big screen, have a few bets on, have an esky full of coldies it's INSANE way better than the footy, way better than the grand prix … unreal. Sure the early rounds are boring unless the waves are totally pumping but that's life eh.
I deal with regular surfers every day and your right some could care less about pro surfing but they ALL know who the champ is and they all know when Chopes, J-bay and Pipe are on.
As for surfers private lives you right most people don't care that much they just care about surfing and some of the best surfing happens on the Tour and is broadcast free to anyone with an internet connection, imagine if the footy or car racing did that.

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