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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:45 pm
by swvic
Thanks, 'boo. Didn't get my steamer, but did order a short john and thermal vest. Combo deal was $200. $80 less than buying individually. Short john will turn my winter 3/2 into a 4.5/2. I'm hoping it works out ok. Even if it doesn't, as is will be ok for a couple of months when my knee comes good

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:16 pm
by Grooter
swvic wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:46 am
Lost some weight, Grooter?

I'm the opposite, tempted to try getting through with a 3/2. Shoulder struggles to move 3 mm. Gotta be a back zip too. Exceedingly difficult to get out of a chest zip without help
Nah mate I've fcuken given up! 88kgs all day every day. Even done a bit of cycling the last 12 months as the knees and left ankle (old footy injury) aren't happy about me running anymore. A lady friend did comment today that I had lost some weight and "bulked up", I am sure she was just being polite though.

A new 3/2 with a HotSkin would probably get me through (combined with hood, boots and gloves for those freezing July mornings), but my current 3/2 isn't done with yet so I'm thinking I can relegate that as my late-spring/summer/early-autumn suit with the 4/3 for the other half of the year.

It'll be a Rip Curl one Flashbomb one though, never had a bad one and I always get at least a few years out of them.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:31 pm
by swvic
Yeah, the flashbombs are good. That's what I'll get if Torquay don't have oneill's. I believe they have reinstated the back zip as an option. Must have realised there's plenty of old farts like me and unco tards like shearer in the market
Hope life is good, you bulked up eating machine

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:34 pm
by steve shearer
You might as well try and hold back the tide as resist the righteous return of Gods chosen wetsuit: the backzip.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:07 pm
by Beanpole
They have to do something about the flap they put in lots of back zips these days. Was going to buy a new bong one a while ago but the flap put me off.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:09 pm
by steve shearer
that flap is proof god loves you Beany.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:20 pm
by Yuke Hunt
Beanpole wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:07 pm
Was going to buy a new bong.
You'd probably be needing a back-zip for that .......

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:05 pm
by Beanpole
steve shearer wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:09 pm
that flap is proof god loves you Beany.
Purgatory.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:16 pm
by godsavethequeen
Any return of the back zip will be solely driven by the desire to maintain profit margins as cheapo new entrants drive down retail prices. That there appears to be a marginalised demographic of angry tetraplegics incompatible with the vastly superior chest zip is just the icing on the cake for the wetsuit companies

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:48 pm
by Cranked
Back zips are just way too hard to get into and out of, you need the simplicity and the joy of the longjohn and front zip long sleeve top combination for real ease of access.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:52 pm
by Trev
Cranked wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:48 pm
Back zips are just way too hard to get into and out of, you need the simplicity and the joy of the longjohn and front zip long sleeve top combination for real ease of access.
I was going to respond to this derogatively.
Then I realised you are probably taking the piss.
If you aren't flexible enough to easily get into a back zip, you shouldn't be surfing. :-o

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:54 pm
by petulance
Cranked wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:48 pm
Back zips are just way too hard to get into and out of, you need the simplicity and the joy of the longjohn and front zip long sleeve top combination for real ease of access.
What do you think of chest zips and zipperless suits then?

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:24 pm
by Cranked
I only surf a couple of times a year in full rubber now and I haven't had a steamer for 2 years. I've never used a front zip steamer.

Yep Trev, just taking the piss, but the long john is ridiculously easy to get into and out of, and so is a front zip top. I have two of each: 2 and 3mm longjohns, 1.5 and 2mm tops, all super stretchy.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:34 pm
by Beanpole
Trev wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:52 pm
Cranked wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:48 pm
Back zips are just way too hard to get into and out of, you need the simplicity and the joy of the longjohn and front zip long sleeve top combination for real ease of access.
I was going to respond to this derogatively.
Then I realised you are probably taking the piss.
If you aren't flexible enough to easily get into a back zip, you shouldn't be surfing. :-o
Thoughts on the diaphram style flap they put on the back zips to supposedly make them more watertight?

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:52 pm
by Trev
Beanpole wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:34 pm
Trev wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:52 pm
Cranked wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:48 pm
Back zips are just way too hard to get into and out of, you need the simplicity and the joy of the longjohn and front zip long sleeve top combination for real ease of access.
I was going to respond to this derogatively.
Then I realised you are probably taking the piss.
If you aren't flexible enough to easily get into a back zip, you shouldn't be surfing. :-o
Thoughts on the diaphram style flap they put on the back zips to supposedly make them more watertight?
Haven't noticed any difference. But my newest steamer is three years old. :-o
Springy, maybe four.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:31 am
by Beanpole
Okay.....my current back zip...and the Billabong I recently tried on..thanks Yuke...have a flap that goes across the shoulders. To zip the back up you have to wrangle this thing into a position where you can keep it clear of the zipper or it will jam. This is done by getting one arm in, then reaching around till you can get a grip on it somehow and then pull it taut while you get the zip cord and pull that up. Given that you usually need to hold the base of the zip and make sure the keys inside if it's got a cord attachment plus the seam isn't stuck in the Velcro that's an unnecessary complication. They could put a second cord attachment for that to make it easier.

I reckon it's probably a leftover feature from the front zip construction process they were too lazy to design a solution for. It's supposed to keep your back warm under the zipper.

Springy doesn't have this feature.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:35 am
by Trev
Huh! I'd just cut it off.
The narrow flap which runs up inside the zipper does the job well enough.

Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:39 am
by Legion
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