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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Legion » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:49 pm

steve, you'll love this: the other day I was putting on my zip-free for about the fifth time. In a rush, looking at the waves while I got changed. It felt a bit tight and I was struggling. It was as I pulled it up to my hips I realised I'd stepped in through the neck hole. Oops. Not quite back-to-front, but almost.

Today I bought a chest zip Dawn Patrol for a Legionnaire. It cost $360 on sale. That hurts. That's more than I pay for Flash Bombs. There was a Flash Bomb for full RRP of $650. A Psycho-something for $600 less 25% (except it didn't fit). The Legionnaire will outgrow it in a year. Ouch. But the fit was great and the service is old-fashioned and the selection is really good so I'm willing to pay for the opportunity to try on multiple options and find the right one. Still, I can't wait until the Legionnaire stabilises and has a known size so I can do the online thing for them too.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Legion » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:52 pm

Oh, and my zip-free isn't my favourite ever Flash Bomb. It _is_ more flexible than the chest zip models. It goes on easy enough (neck incident aside). But occasionally water comes in the neck (despite the incident it's not stretched and loose, just somehow gets in). And it feels like it won't be as wam as my previous chest zip models, which had different seam technology and smoothie panels. The zip-free has no smoothie whatsoever and looks like flatlock seams. I'm sure they're glued on the inside but it looks less high-tech. I wonder if it's different to Nick's.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by OddaP » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:55 am

Guilty of that myself. What made it worse I bought a zipper less by accident as I was looking to replace an old chest zip ss steamer. First day I tried to put it was torrential rain. Decided to get changed in the car and ended up in a real bind. Actually thought at 1 stage I was going to have to wait for someone to help me out.

Having got used to it is is mind bendingly supple and easiest the best wettie for movement. Not sure that I would risk trying to get a 3/2 zipper free on though.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by steve shearer » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:22 pm

There has to be an official diagnosis for this kind of madness.
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by black duck » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:13 pm

Bought a wettie yesterday. A quicky 3.5 / 3. Looks the goods. First time with a quick wettie. Been rusted on Rip Curl and O'neill user since forever.
Had leaks and seam breakdown with the current 3/2 Rip flash bomb, less than 2 years old. Surf shop dude told me it was a batch thing which they've fixed. Maybe. Don't care. It's rooted and it's winter so i'm not surfing in boardies while they fix it. Fcuk that. Must say though, the quick dry red fuzz inner lining stuff is a good thing. The seam failings put me off going with a flash bomb again though.
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Legion » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:37 pm

My last three have been flash bombs. No seam issues, but I upgrade each year. Things do fall apart though - e.g. last year's one the knee has perished internally from duck-diving.

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Post by crabmeat thompson » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:11 am

that's why you use your foot when duckdiving.
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Beanpole » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:41 am

black duck wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:13 pm
Bought a wettie yesterday. A quicky 3.5 / 3. Looks the goods. First time with a quick wettie. Been rusted on Rip Curl and O'neill user since forever.
Had leaks and seam breakdown with the current 3/2 Rip flash bomb, less than 2 years old. Surf shop dude told me it was a batch thing which they've fixed. Maybe. Don't care. It's rooted and it's winter so i'm not surfing in boardies while they fix it. Fcuk that. Must say though, the quick dry red fuzz inner lining stuff is a good thing. The seam failings put me off going with a flash bomb again though.
My Quikkie has lasted three seasons counting this one. I reckon this will probably be the last but it's still good. Back zip. Only annoying thing is this stupid flap that goes over the shoulder blades internally. I've got a Ripcurl springy and it is way stiffer and more restrictive. Checked out another one in a surfshop last week and it was exactly the same.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Legion » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:44 pm

This year I've become a morning surfer. I'm strongly considering buying a whole second ensemble (steamer, boots, hood) so I don't have to put on cold, wet stuff. Last year's steamer lets in too much water for single digit dawn patrols.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by buddy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:53 pm

Are boots and hood necessary in WA?
I've never been.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Legion » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:05 pm

No. But an increasing number of gaylords are wearing them.

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Post by ctd » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:32 pm

Legion wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:05 pm
No. But an increasing number of gaylords are wearing them.
noticed these are on sale on aliexpress
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by JET01 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:47 pm

Needs essential wetties are becoming more and more popular at my local regardless of what the surfer actually earns.

Does any reckon the RRP of the the big name brands will come down to fight off the market share loss these other smaller brands are taking off them?

I haven't heard a single negative review on them.

My ONeill pyrofreak has two leaks in the junction of my arm and peck. Let's in loads of water, this is going to be an interesting winter. No point repairing it, as I reckon once there's 2 leaks others will soon follow.

I'm going sustainable and going Patagonia, I must admit, the difference between 240 and 600 is going to be hard to swallow for the planet. Eventually it'll get better.
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Legion » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:01 pm

Encountered an interesting problem today.

Prologue: for years I've done nothing with the elastic thing that goes near the zip (chest zip). It's generally tight enough to leave it done up and never touch it. With my new zip-free I need to use that elastic thing. I loosen it, do the head thing, tighten it. As a result when surfing there's a decent loop (couple inches long).

Today I caught a nice wedge grower, but as I went to place my hands to pop up somehow my thumb went through the loop. The more I tried to stand up, the more the elastic pulled me back to my hands at the rails. It took me a few seconds to get free and I was lucky that my positioning didn't mean I got pitched. As it was I barely stood in time and still struggled not to blow it. What a kook. Will be tucking my couple of inches from now on. I hope I didn't cause premature overstretching and imminent failure of the loop, 'cause that'd be a c-hunt to repair/replace.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by The Mighty Sunbird » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:24 pm

Legion wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:01 pm
Encountered an interesting problem.
Will be tucking my couple of inches from now on.
Erase.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by godsavethequeen » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:51 am

To be fair, it was literally crying out to be selectively quoted

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by The Mighty Sunbird » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:33 am

godsavethequeen wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:51 am
i was literally crying
Erase.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by godsavethequeen » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:41 am

The Mighty Sunbird wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:33 am
My anus was weeping like a newborn

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