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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by steve shearer » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:44 pm

life is really too short to spend time making a monkey's butt out of yourself wrassling a zipper less wetsuit for the purely placebo effect on performance they offer.

Can I get an amen on that?
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by buddy » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:51 pm

Performance?
I like them for the comfort.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by godsavethequeen » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:54 pm

steve have you noticed how you basically can't get a high end wetsuit with a back zip any more? Forget all the other surf industry shenanigans that's the scandal that you should be writing about, the fact that if you want a back zip you have to put up with 95% non-stretch neoprene and shitlock seams

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by steve shearer » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:00 pm

Jordy Smith is rocking the back zip.
they are coming back around Godsave.


as more and more people wake up to the hoax that has been perpetuated on them.

This will be bigger than thalidomide babies, bigger than smoking.
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by godsavethequeen » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:21 pm

I hope you're right steve. Having followed blindly, parroting the party line on chest zips for a number of years I firmly believe that they are in fact significantly worse than back zips - a struggle (comparatively) to get on and off, no adjustment around the neck and any perceived benefit of a zipless paddle zone is outweighed by the mass of material and zipperage on your chest. I used to think they're warmer but they're not. As you say, a total fucken hoax introduced solely for the purposes of the surf industry's bottom line

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Legion » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:38 pm

:lol:

Ah, steve.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by foamy » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:45 pm

Are front zips the banana boards of 2019?

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by buddy » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:49 pm

Banana boards are probably more like smooth skin rubber neoprene covering the whole anterior torso.
Slippery as fuschia trying to paddle unless you've got a super sticky wax coat.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by marauding mullet » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:56 pm

I despise my chest zip steamer, despise it. It’s the most inflexible, difficult to get out of, stupid fucken thing ever made, and all the extra complication of making it probably adds to the price.
I’m with Steve, there was never anything wrong with the back zip
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by godsavethequeen » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:02 pm

DID YOU HEAR THAT, LURKING CORPOS? NO MORE FUCKEN CHEST ZIPS. THE PEOPLE* HAVE SPOKEN



* Not all of them, obvs, but enough. You can offload your suddenly redundant stock of chest zips to those thick necked mutants in Perth

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by steve shearer » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:34 pm

:-D-:
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Cranked » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:00 pm

Speaking as someone who hasn't actually surfed in a wetsuit for 2 years or more, I must say I'm still in favour of my long johns teamed with a fcuking FRONT zip long sleeve top to make it even easier!

Sometimes when I'm back home in winter I put them on and take them off just because I can.
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by godsavethequeen » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:15 pm

Sounds like a terrific combo Cranked. No warmth benefit of course (but then you live in Australia so don't actually need a wetsuit) but endlessly stylish. Hop off the HiFly 343 and swagger straight to the cocktails

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by black duck » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:26 pm

godsavethequeen wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:02 pm
DID YOU HEAR THAT, LURKING CORPOS? NO MORE fuschia CHEST ZIPS. THE PEOPLE* HAVE SPOKEN



* Not all of them, obvs, but enough. You can offload your suddenly redundant stock of chest zips to those thick necked mutants in Perth
Mildly retarded people always struggle with front zips, often their fly’s are undone too.
One thing and one thing only I will say for back zips: after having used them for many of my younger years I can still put my left arm above my shoulder blades. Reaching for the fcuking back zip string over many years was like yoga for my left arm. Other than that, back zips do nothing except let in cold winter water.
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Cranked » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:38 pm

godsavethequeen wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:15 pm
Sounds like a terrific combo Cranked. No warmth benefit of course

You are exagerating GSTQ. As long as you don't go in the water its the warmest combination around.
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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by godsavethequeen » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:41 pm

black duck wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:26 pm


Mildly retarded people always struggle with front zips, often their fly’s are undone too.
One thing and one thing only I will say for back zips: after having used them for many of my younger years I can still put my left arm above my shoulder blades. Reaching for the fcuking back zip string over many years was like yoga for my left arm. Other than that, back zips do nothing except let in cold winter water.
Oh I don't struggle with front zips. In fact I'm sure that if you can be bothered you could find some scathingly condescending tutorials that I've attempted to deliver to steve on the very subject over the years. What is beyond dispute though is that they are more annoying to get in and out of than a back zip. If there was a significant warmth dividend then fine but there isn't. The decent back zips with the batwing that they used to put on Rip Curls, for example, didn't let any water in

(PS, you reach for the string above your kidneys - no need to do the bizarre contortions you appear to be describing)

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by Beanpole » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:44 pm

My worst back zip had a couple of flaps inside that had to be crossed over just right or they would bulk up. All the pain of a front zip with none of the benefits.
I once cut the pull strap off a springy when I was cutting the label off.

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Re: that wetsuit discussion...

Post by black duck » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:03 pm

Annoying to get in and out of? Let’s examine that for a moment or two. We are talking 3/2 steamers here, let’s be clear, although 4/3s and even 5/4s can join the fray. The most difficult component of releasing oneself from a steamer has nothing to do with chest zip or back zip, it’s the fcuking legs and ankles that cause the problem. Extricating yourself from a steamer is not difficult for the upper body, regardless of zip type. Front, back, chest or no zip it’s all relatively easy peasy. It’s geting the fcuking things off your feet that is the only real difficulty. Watching the carpark stagger is an entertainment. That hop and desperate attempt to not get carpark dirt on your wettie while trying to be cool about removing a wetsuit that is clinging to your lower legs deserves Monty python focus. Wether you remove the wetsuit at the carpark at the beach or wait till you’re in the shower at home, it’s the legs that generate the problem, not the zip.
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