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bomboraa
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by bomboraa » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:25 pm
Nick Carroll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:25 pm
bomboraa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:06 am
Yep sea temps on those charts are from several kay's off Sydney. They are commonly different to temps at the beach. See it all the time on super accurate depth sounder's temp guage when out fishing. Really noticeable when a tongue of the EAC arcs in towards Sydney, getting within a few kays of the beach, but rarely does it actually hit the shoreline. When it does it's really obvious when surfing.
It'll be different 300m offshore, not an east coast current thing - just that the upwelling and cooling occurs in water shallower than 4-6m. Like riht now off Syd the water inshore will be 17 and a bit but if you go outside the headlands it's 20.
Have to go a long way out to hit 20C at the mo. Last Wednesday 14.5C at Rose Bay, 17.3C at Bluefish (Rock ledge just up from North Head), 17.8C a few kays out at Muggs Reef. 19C at Browns Mountain 20 plus kays out.
Watching the temps as you move betwen spots on Sydney's north side can be facinating with changes in temps of a degree C of even 1.5C - quite dramatic in fish life terms - say at Long Reef compared to Mona Vale. The reef which runs east of Long Reef headland can even divert warm water east, making Dee Why to Manly cooler than Narrabeen to Palmy.
There's also deep water upwelling off Sydney when hard current pushes against underwater ledges.
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by alakaboo » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:45 pm
Cranked wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:17 pm
Legion wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:19 am
Cranked it's an everyday thing. Don't let it get to you.
I just think its good policy to stay away from where there has been a near shore shark sighting for at least 24 hours. A k out to sea, or up or down the coast, is not a problem?
If you think that a great white can't swim 1km in 24 hours I've got some bad news for you.
This is a baby
https://patch.com/california/lagunanigu ... rano-beach
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by Beanpole » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:55 pm
The Icebergs have a thing where you have to do so many swims every winter. Those in the know go early. They even throw blocks of ice in to make it colder. Slackers get the cold temps.
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by Cranked » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:22 am
alakaboo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:45 pm
Cranked wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:17 pm
Legion wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:19 am
Cranked it's an everyday thing. Don't let it get to you.
I just think its good policy to stay away from where there has been a near shore shark sighting for at least 24 hours. A k out to sea, or up or down the coast, is not a problem?
If you think that a great white can't swim 1km in 24 hours I've got some bad news for you.
This is a baby
https://patch.com/california/lagunanigu ... rano-beach
Of course they can swim more than 1km in 24 hours. Firstly though, if they are close they are more likely to blunder on you and they may take a bite just to check out what you are. I understand that they are also very inquisitive and have incredible senses of smell (following a urine trail for instance) and hearing so they may detect you and cruise on over and take that deadly inquisitive bite.
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by Cranked » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:54 am
Oh, and that helicopter pilot who came across to warn me first sighted the great white about half a kilometre from me and said it was within 30m of me within about 5 to 10 minutes and heading straight for me. The helicopter was overhead with a crewman leaning out and obviously screaming at me and pointing to where the shark was. Those details were confirmed in the news reports.
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by godsavethequeen » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:13 am
This appears to confirm what we have long suspected: boomers are totally repellent
Hatchnam wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:35 pm
Waist high grovel, mostly shutting down.
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by steve shearer » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:19 am
I want Nightclub Dwight dead in his grave I want the nice-nice up in blazes
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by Legion » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:23 am
Cranked they're everywhere all the time.
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by Cranked » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:48 am
They are not everywhere at all Legion, that's a gross exaggeration. On a sunny day they are quite easy to spot and we often have a shark patrol that does just that, plus public sightings and a web site that has that information (plus the whereabouts of the tagged sharks), so its easy to avoid surfing at a surf spot with a recent shark sighting.
The chances of being attacked are slim, and yeah, there'll be instances where sharks are not spotted, but I've had too many near misses so I'll continue a behaviour that reduces the risk of a shark attack.
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by Legion » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:06 am
Exaggeration but given the notifications on the website vs the number that are not tagged and not seen you can assume that they are regularly swimming past you.
The shark patrol is only in summer.
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by Beanpole » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:09 am
WA is pretty sharky by reputation. Apparently there's a bit of good surf around there lately.
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by Cranked » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:52 am
Legion wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:06 am
Exaggeration but given the notifications on the website vs the number that are not tagged and not seen you can assume that they are regularly swimming past you.
The shark patrol is only in summer.
Yes, but during that time I don't see them reporting any close encounters, and if they do its headline news (as was my close encounter with a shark). I don't recall many (any?) other close encounters in the last 5 years or so. How do you reconcile that with your claim "they are regularly swimming past you"
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by Legion » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:03 pm
Certainly within 5 years I had one swim past. Despite 2 or 3 news helicopters overhead and several cars on the beach it barely scored a mention.
It's not the ones that make the news bulletins I'm referring to. And the ones that do cause beach closures definitely don't make the news very often. These days it takes an attack or excellent footage of one chewing on a boat motor leg to make the news. It's the ones that are unseen I'm referring to. Shark patrols aren't happening for another few months (October long weekend?). The ocean is a hard place to see things.
As an analogy my local has semi-resident seals. I only see them once or twice a year in the water. Not yet this year. They live literally within 200m of where I surf. You reckon they're not there because they're not seen regularly?
Last year it was still in the news of the crew who intentionally target big noahs in the metro area. Those guys were catching not whites, but solid tigers off the beach in the night time. I have never seen a big tiger locally. But they were catching them regularly.
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by Beanpole » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:04 pm
Wild and windy.......and tiny. Nice little trimmers if you could nab one.
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by Trev » Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:25 pm
Surf report for Maroochydore this morning was 0' - 0'
And pretty accurate.
#sixfeetissixfeet!
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by mario » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:59 pm
Two sessions out the farm today 3-4 foot . Not so crowded for once but both frustrating surfs with no designated take off zones . Still got some good waves in amongst the crap with the morning being better wind wise .
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by Cranked » Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:17 pm
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by channels » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:11 pm
mario wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:59 pm
Two sessions out the farm today 3-4 foot . Not so crowded for once but both frustrating surfs with no designated take off zones . Still got some good waves in amongst the crap with the morning being better wind wise .
Surprising it was as big as that.
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