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Yep, they are the local crew Steve!

steve shearer wrote:

Brian Brainwave wrote: so the old school community is fragmented and dispersed, and the tightest crew in the water are now the blow in pros and their mate's with skis.

I hadn't really considered that perspective. That makes perfect sense.

Umm the "old school community" is holding a massive Symposium on the Gold Coast this week, featuring everyone from Bugs to Andrew McKinnon and talking about everything from the World Surfing Reserve thing to, well, everything else. (But not the tow vs paddle thing)

The upcoming Quik Pro has heaps of "old school community" members in its employment ranks including Jay Phillips as the local event director and Bruce Lee as beach commentator. My Facebook feed is deluged with posts from old school surf community members featuring pics of their many reunions and constant interplay with the Goldie surf culture. Guys like Wayne Deane, Pete Harris, Darryl Parkinson and literally hundreds of others are still actively surfing the points.

This isn't fragmentation, it's continuation. It's a kind of super-localism.

haha. super localism wouldn't allow skis in the lineup within metres of paddling surfers.

so what do these old school goldy crew think of all this jet ski through the lineup stuff then Nick?

also, a lot of those crew have/had skin in the game as far as pro surfing interests vs rec surfer interests are concerned.

Read all about it........all at the Currumbin RSL

http://goldcoastworldsurfingreserve.com/?pgid=940

This definitely raises more questions than it answers. Next level of dominance for the pros?

The Gold Coast powerbrokers are lovers of the glitzy trash culture. Celebrities using shiny, aquatic, motor bikes to drive noisily into waves and drop glossy videos to advertise the GC. THEY LOVE IT!

But constantly whining non-celebrity surfers, surfers who can't afford a jet ski, the I'm so special because I surf total wankers. Well, how big is your bank account, you loser? Do you enjoy lining up to buy your wine at Aldi?
You can't afford a jet ski, oh diddums. Look, the jet skis happen for a few hours, at a few places, a few times a year. If you don't like it, surf a different beach.

That is how the local powerbrokers think.

I have access to a ski, (almost) when I would want it. But I'd rather not.

watching the guys on the skis, i kinda felt sorry for them. there they were on their sub 6-zeros, the same as they surf every other shitty day. Just mindlessly leaping off the back of the ski into another wave. full wavepool mentality. I couldn't help but feel how disconnected from everything they were.

paddling a big, thick, 6'6" pintail single into that abyss and hucking over the ledge on a few after waiting and picking my spot. coming in totally exhausted.



but, hand-on-hand combat has always greatly excited me as opposed to long range missiles. ... not that I'd ever be capable of surfing Pe'ahi. but it was a great day for surfing when paddlers took that wave back.

I was relieved to see that last sentence foamy, I thought we were seeing a new harder, fcuk you edge to your personality for a moment there

No, I was just channeling Tom Tate et al, from comments they have made.

steve shearer wrote:so what do these old school goldy crew think of all this jet ski through the lineup stuff then Nick?

I dunno yet, I am gonna ask them, you can read about it on CW at some point

re super localism, I dunno if Brian is getting my point, this might be a circumstance where the head locals have got machinery and are bullying all the people who are lower on the pecking order. Localism powered by four stroke.

Ask Parko.

Yeah... i totally missed your point. Haha

The act of being dropped off up the point let alone step offs, is howled down everywhere else in oz, and most of the world.

There was an old dude being towed into 4ft waves in Ballina yesterday too.
Stayed away from the other surfers for the most part, but came through my peak a few times that I was surfing alone.

Their presence and noise, alone, pisses me off. Just fcuk off already you stupid, lazy, greedy cnut knuckles.

Clip on Swellnet of surfers getting towed in amongst paddlers at Narrabeen last week.

I posted that earlier this week....

Nick Carroll wrote:In most surf communities there's a very clear distinction between tow and paddle, and tow/ski stuff doesn't start till nobody's paddling. In a very few cases they mix but it's always done with care and the ski always gives way to the paddle. I am a bit fascinated by why it's so different on the Goldie and why everyone's so unwilling to discuss it publicly.

Read about the Skeleton Bay locals complaining about drop off's about 2 years ago - got a similar sweep apparently, so maybe the Goldie isn't so different. At least the SB were vocally whining about it.