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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by Rustt » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:23 am

steve shearer wrote:
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Why people see such a need to belong and to perform these cliched surfer dude rituals is absolutely beyond me.

Got to say, this idea of surfing as some kind of communal activity which is curated and sold back to you , is not a cliche, it's actually quite a modern idea.

I really have very mixed feelings about it.
I think it's fcuked.

The the bloke who runs the falls at Lorne was going to do yoga surfing retreat, with intermit performances from the likes of Jack Johnson. He was blown away by how many walls were put up. I love this redneck wonderland, it was dubbed the festival of camel toe.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by Davros » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:34 am

Battle of "The Pole" on the 23rd of September is where it's at. Longreef v DY.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by ajohnsen » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:05 am

I would quite like a thing like that that was focussed more on actual surfing rather than incorporating so much of the wellness industry. But, any actual surf camp is usually grom-focussed and I'd feel like Donald Friend.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by foamy » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:51 am

Yes, this should be in the Uninteresting Trivial Facts thread.

The Joy Division album cover image came from the doctoral thesis "Radio Observations of the Pulse Profiles and Dispersion Measures of Twelve Pulsars,” by Harold D. Craft, Jr. (September 1970). Harold was at the Arecibo Radio Observatory and started using their very sensitive equipment to analyse the first pulsar recordings.

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Though I see the Surfing World graphic has altered the image.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by steve shearer » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:57 am

Joy division, wellness industry, it's all a confusing fit.
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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by JET01 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:04 am

I love this redneck wonderland, it was dubbed the festival of camel toe.
I love camel toe
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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by Davros » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:37 am

Using the Joy Divison cover is fk'd on so many levels. But typical of surfing's cultural cluelessness.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by Nick Carroll » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:43 am

steve shearer wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:57 am
Joy division, wellness industry, it's all a confusing fit.
well it's a bit millennial free-form, you know, something borrowed, something blue

I think surf culture has elements of both individuality and communality and that in many ways the communal, or the strengths and benefits of the communal, is not recognised as clearly as the individual.

Think of John Sevo's famed quote about this crowded world and surfing letting a man be alone with his thoughts. People love that very romantic idea of surfing (though it has a shade or two of lurking horror, who really wants to be a man alone with his thoughts very often). But the nut and bolt of surf culture arises in greater measure from the communal, the group of locals who surf together for years, the memories you gain from surf trips with mates, the interactions between shapers and clients, the shared stories, surfboards sold from hand to hand, the empirical development of surf knowledge over many years, and the simple straight up learning that goes on between surfers watching each other ride waves.

Big surf contests, when they were really open affairs, were expressions of that -- sounds like they often still are for kids and even QS surfers. In any case I think gatherings can be really good for any surfer, they open up doors that otherwise might remain closed for a long time, and it is different being in each other's presence -- it's not the same as a forum, even one as entertaining as this.

Maybe the SW one looks a bit off-putting to some, not a good cultural fit or whatever, but I can tell you it does not arise from a cheesy place in Blakey and Co's hearts, they really want to do social shit and bring people together.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by ajohnsen » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:59 am

Still, I reckon they should have issued surfing licences back in the 60s and capped the number available, as per the taxi industry. That would've kept the crowds down.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by Rustt » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:00 am

Na, disagree, it's fcuked. someone is profiting from it that is all I see.

If you want to attend a gathering of the surfing tribe or whatever you choose to call it. Just go surfing when the waves are pumping. :)

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by ajohnsen » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:14 am

Nick Carroll wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:43 am

Maybe the SW one looks a bit off-putting to some, not a good cultural fit or whatever, but I can tell you it does not arise from a cheesy place in Blakey and Co's hearts, they really want to do social shit and bring people together.
Our (my) cynicism is probably more a function of having seen the Great Marketing Machine of the West grow in intensity over the last few decades. The various components of that festival - meditation, yoga, whole foods etc - have become synonymous with culture capitals like Bondi and Byron where there is a perception of vacuity and a lack of integrity underpinning them. I'm sure there are a great many authentic followers of these movements, but the shallow, squeaky wheel tends to gets the grease, with Gwyneth Paltrow sitting atop this vast mountain of excrement.

Anything that reeks of a lack of authenticity, unfortunately, even by association, will be mocked.

That said, I could sure go a kale and rice milk smoothy with activated almonds.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by offshore1 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:42 am

I went to a paddle out for a local legend who passed away after a long, sad decline.
A paddle out is about as close as surfing has come to communal communalistic communilism.
It was pretty good, despite having a fair share of posers in attendance, but all in all it was ok. Sort of a community affirmation of shared values. but I'm a still a bit conflicted. Maybe I shouldn't be such a purist.
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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by Drailed » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:10 pm

Rustt wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:00 am
Na, disagree, it's fcuked. someone is profiting from it that is all I see.

If you want to attend a gathering of the surfing tribe or whatever you choose to call it. Just go surfing when the waves are pumping. :)
That's it brother. Anything more and you wanna be taking your hand off it.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by No Pants Lance » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:37 pm

Nick Carroll wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:43 am
steve shearer wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:57 am
Joy division, wellness industry, it's all a confusing fit.
well it's a bit millennial free-form, you know, something borrowed, something blue

I think surf culture has elements of both individuality and communality and that in many ways the communal, or the strengths and benefits of the communal, is not recognised as clearly as the individual.

Think of John Sevo's famed quote about this crowded world and surfing letting a man be alone with his thoughts. People love that very romantic idea of surfing (though it has a shade or two of lurking horror, who really wants to be a man alone with his thoughts very often). But the nut and bolt of surf culture arises in greater measure from the communal, the group of locals who surf together for years, the memories you gain from surf trips with mates, the interactions between shapers and clients, the shared stories, surfboards sold from hand to hand, the empirical development of surf knowledge over many years, and the simple straight up learning that goes on between surfers watching each other ride waves.

Big surf contests, when they were really open affairs, were expressions of that -- sounds like they often still are for kids and even QS surfers. In any case I think gatherings can be really good for any surfer, they open up doors that otherwise might remain closed for a long time, and it is different being in each other's presence -- it's not the same as a forum, even one as entertaining as this.

Maybe the SW one looks a bit off-putting to some, not a good cultural fit or whatever, but I can tell you it does not arise from a cheesy place in Blakey and Co's hearts, they really want to do social shit and bring people together.
so, you're saying they mean well, but are misguided?

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by No Pants Lance » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:40 pm

foamy wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:51 am
Yes, this should be in the Uninteresting Trivial Facts thread.

The Joy Division album cover image came from the doctoral thesis "Radio Observations of the Pulse Profiles and Dispersion Measures of Twelve Pulsars,” by Harold D. Craft, Jr. (September 1970). Harold was at the Arecibo Radio Observatory and started using their very sensitive equipment to analyse the first pulsar recordings.

Image

Though I see the Surfing World graphic has altered the image.

Image

And here i've been, mourning for the last 37 yrs, of the belief that it was an MRI of Ian Curtis' brain.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by Nick Carroll » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:59 pm

No Pants Lance wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:37 pm
Nick Carroll wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:43 am
steve shearer wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:57 am
Joy division, wellness industry, it's all a confusing fit.
well it's a bit millennial free-form, you know, something borrowed, something blue

I think surf culture has elements of both individuality and communality and that in many ways the communal, or the strengths and benefits of the communal, is not recognised as clearly as the individual.

Think of John Sevo's famed quote about this crowded world and surfing letting a man be alone with his thoughts. People love that very romantic idea of surfing (though it has a shade or two of lurking horror, who really wants to be a man alone with his thoughts very often). But the nut and bolt of surf culture arises in greater measure from the communal, the group of locals who surf together for years, the memories you gain from surf trips with mates, the interactions between shapers and clients, the shared stories, surfboards sold from hand to hand, the empirical development of surf knowledge over many years, and the simple straight up learning that goes on between surfers watching each other ride waves.

Big surf contests, when they were really open affairs, were expressions of that -- sounds like they often still are for kids and even QS surfers. In any case I think gatherings can be really good for any surfer, they open up doors that otherwise might remain closed for a long time, and it is different being in each other's presence -- it's not the same as a forum, even one as entertaining as this.

Maybe the SW one looks a bit off-putting to some, not a good cultural fit or whatever, but I can tell you it does not arise from a cheesy place in Blakey and Co's hearts, they really want to do social shit and bring people together.
so, you're saying they mean well, but are misguided?
Nope, I mean exactly what I wrote.

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by godsavethequeen » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:39 pm

Respectfully, I would suggest that every communal aspect of surfing that you have listed is diametrically opposed to the forced homogeneity on offer at Kookfest. And while I acknowledge that someone such as yourself with a life inside capital S surfing will have a different perspective on such events, to me it just reeks of cringe

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Re: Where did you surf today ?

Post by steve shearer » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:45 pm

hang on, did we actually establish that Carroll is the invited legend?

Or is that still hearsay?
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